Andrew, thanks for this link, it's making installing Xp look as though it might be doable! - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Ireland" <a.emaillists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:27 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please | Hi Jackie, | | I agree doing a format is a big job, however, I have been having a look at | the unattended set up, and I was able to completely re-format a machine | without any sighted assistance. | | Normally I use Ghost to create an image of my system, but it was very cool | to be able to do a format myself without any eyes around. <Smile>. | | If anyone is interested in having a read about Windows XP Unattended | Installation. | | http://www.hytekcomputer.com/Articles/XPInstall/1.shtml | | All the best | | -- | Andrew | | Skype: andrew.ireland4 | -----Original Message----- | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of | Jackie Cairns | Sent: 16 February 2008 10:55 | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please | | Hi Steve | | Oh yeah the old mute has cropped up once or twice. | | What I would say Steve is that you are extremely competent at doing updates | etc, and that's commendable. But not everyone has the knowledge nor | confidence,. I wouldn't, for example, restore my hard drive without my son | being present to at least get us to the point where we can install JAWS. | I'm not saying it can't be done without sight, I'm just saying that the | degree of experience and confidence in this scenario matters a lot, and | differs greatly among users. | | Jackie | | Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx | Skype Name: Cairnsplace | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 11:38 PM | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please | | | > Hi Jackie, | > | > Yes, I agree with that, but I have never known sound drivers mute the | > volume | > on an upgrade. Lower it, yes, but not mute it. Mind you, that's one good | > reason to have a hardware synth to hand. Good old Tripletalk! | > | > All the best | > | > Steve | > | > -----Original Message----- | > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf | > Of | > Jackie Cairns | > Sent: Friday 15 February 2008 21:51 | > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please | > | > Yes, and I concur with that. If you get the volume suddenly mute, what | > then? | > | > Jackie | > | > Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx | > Skype Name: Cairnsplace | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 8:16 PM | > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please | > | > | >>I agree. A friend of mine updated hissound card drivers a while ago and | >>lost sound in the process. He had to wait until he had someone with sight | >>to sort it out. | >> ----- Original Message ----- | >> From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 8:11 PM | >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please | >> | >> | >> Again, McGillicuddy! | >> | >> Yes, and as an example, the volume goes lower, and that | >> always happens with the poor guy who is hard of hearing - | >> and I just happen to be on the end of the support call. | >> | >> Perhaps in 8 to 9 cases out of 10, sighted help isn't needed | >> after all, but I generally hear from the exceptions who are | >> absolutely desperate. | >> | >> So what's wrong with trying to act responsibly and advising | >> caution? | >> | >> George. | >> | >> -----Original Message----- | >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt | >> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 7:25 PM | >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please | >> | >> Hi George, | >> | >> Again, sound drivers have always worked when I have updated | >> them. The | >> screen reader stays with you, until you have to reboot, then | >> the update | >> kicks in. Sometimes the volume is a bit lower, but that's | >> all. | >> | >> All the best | >> | >> Steve | >> | >> -----Original Message----- | >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of | >> George Bell | >> Sent: Friday 15 February 2008 16:43 | >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please | >> | >> Hi Andy, | >> | >> Video and Sound drivers are the two most risky areas where | >> screen readers | >> are concerned. It's always safer to have sighted help to | >> hand. | >> | >> BTW, how much memory do you have in your system, and how | >> much free hard | >> drive space have you got? | >> | >> Likewise, what operating system and version of it? Does the | >> system have all | >> the critical updates applied, and have you checked Windows | >> Update to see | >> what it thinks needs hardware updates for? | >> | >> George. | >> | >> -----Original Message----- | >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Collins | >> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 4:27 PM | >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please | >> | >> Hi George - | >> | >> This feels a bit scary then, if I listen to some people, | >> they say "make sure | >> all your drivers are up to date" but in the case of the ATI | >> drivers it sound | >> best to leave well alone. I'm trying to sort out this | >> problem I have when | >> trying to rip music cds, or use Windows Media Player, where | >> my PC keeps | >> freezing, and was wondering if the ATI drivers might be | >> causing the problem? | >> | >> The scan of my PC for drivers produced an update driver for | >> my serial bus; | >> could installing this create problems too? | >> | >> These websites recommending an update to drivers make it all | >> sound so easy, | >> but it isn't in reality <smile> - | >> | >> Andy | >> ----- Original Message ----- | >> From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 4:11 PM | >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please | >> | >> | >> | Hi Andy, | >> | | >> | You don't need to uninstall the old ATI drivers, but I'd | >> be | >> | a shade wary about installing new video drivers without | >> | sighted help to hand. It will most likely break the video | >> | chain to your screen reader, leaving you without speech, | >> and | >> | the necessity to re-install your screen reader. | >> | | >> | George. | >> | | >> | -----Original Message----- | >> | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >> | [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Collins | >> | Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:34 PM | >> | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >> | Subject: [access-uk] Help with drivers please | >> | | >> | Hi all - | >> | | >> | I'm pasting my message from yesterday here again, as it | >> got | >> | no responce, and | >> | I'm sure there are people on this list that can help, so | >> | please do if you | >> | can, it's always apreciated. | >> | | >> | Start of message: | >> | | >> | Hi all - | >> | | >> | Ok, a scan of my PC tells me that certain drivers need | >> | updating, and I'm | >> | trying to understand quite what to do, and what I need to | >> | download! | >> | | >> | When I click on the link from driveragent.com to update | >> the | >> | driver, the page | >> | that comes up says: | >> | | >> | "The following packages will provide display drivers and | >> | capture drivers | >> | that can be used with various video capture programs." | >> | | >> | And then it lists what is in the package, the first thing | >> | being the display | >> | driver, is this all I'll need, or will I need the rest of | >> | the package that | >> | includes things like 'catalyst control centre' or the 'WDM | >> | Integrated | >> | Driver.' | >> | | >> | Can I ask too, if I need to uninstall from 'add/remove' | >> | within the control | >> | panel, the existing ati drivers that these updates are to | >> | replace? | >> | | >> | Thanks as ever - | >> | | >> | Andy | >> | | >> | >> | >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following | >> link:- | >> ** | >> [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | >> ** 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