Hi Jackie, Yes, I agree with that, but I have never known sound drivers mute the volume on an upgrade. Lower it, yes, but not mute it. Mind you, that's one good reason to have a hardware synth to hand. Good old Tripletalk! All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: Friday 15 February 2008 21:51 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please Yes, and I concur with that. If you get the volume suddenly mute, what then? Jackie Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx Skype Name: Cairnsplace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 8:16 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please >I agree. A friend of mine updated hissound card drivers a while ago and >lost sound in the process. He had to wait until he had someone with sight >to sort it out. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 8:11 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please > > > Again, McGillicuddy! > > Yes, and as an example, the volume goes lower, and that > always happens with the poor guy who is hard of hearing - > and I just happen to be on the end of the support call. > > Perhaps in 8 to 9 cases out of 10, sighted help isn't needed > after all, but I generally hear from the exceptions who are > absolutely desperate. > > So what's wrong with trying to act responsibly and advising > caution? > > George. > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 7:25 PM > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please > > Hi George, > > Again, sound drivers have always worked when I have updated > them. The > screen reader stays with you, until you have to reboot, then > the update > kicks in. Sometimes the volume is a bit lower, but that's > all. > > All the best > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > George Bell > Sent: Friday 15 February 2008 16:43 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please > > Hi Andy, > > Video and Sound drivers are the two most risky areas where > screen readers > are concerned. It's always safer to have sighted help to > hand. > > BTW, how much memory do you have in your system, and how > much free hard > drive space have you got? > > Likewise, what operating system and version of it? Does the > system have all > the critical updates applied, and have you checked Windows > Update to see > what it thinks needs hardware updates for? > > George. > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Collins > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 4:27 PM > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please > > Hi George - > > This feels a bit scary then, if I listen to some people, > they say "make sure > all your drivers are up to date" but in the case of the ATI > drivers it sound > best to leave well alone. I'm trying to sort out this > problem I have when > trying to rip music cds, or use Windows Media Player, where > my PC keeps > freezing, and was wondering if the ATI drivers might be > causing the problem? > > The scan of my PC for drivers produced an update driver for > my serial bus; > could installing this create problems too? > > These websites recommending an update to drivers make it all > sound so easy, > but it isn't in reality <smile> - > > Andy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 4:11 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Help with drivers please > > > | Hi Andy, > | > | You don't need to uninstall the old ATI drivers, but I'd > be > | a shade wary about installing new video drivers without > | sighted help to hand. It will most likely break the video > | chain to your screen reader, leaving you without speech, > and > | the necessity to re-install your screen reader. > | > | George. > | > | -----Original Message----- > | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > | [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Collins > | Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:34 PM > | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > | Subject: [access-uk] Help with drivers please > | > | Hi all - > | > | I'm pasting my message from yesterday here again, as it > got > | no responce, and > | I'm sure there are people on this list that can help, so > | please do if you > | can, it's always apreciated. > | > | Start of message: > | > | Hi all - > | > | Ok, a scan of my PC tells me that certain drivers need > | updating, and I'm > | trying to understand quite what to do, and what I need to > | download! > | > | When I click on the link from driveragent.com to update > the > | driver, the page > | that comes up says: > | > | "The following packages will provide display drivers and > | capture drivers > | that can be used with various video capture programs." > | > | And then it lists what is in the package, the first thing > | being the display > | driver, is this all I'll need, or will I need the rest of > | the package that > | includes things like 'catalyst control centre' or the 'WDM > | Integrated > | Driver.' > | > | Can I ask too, if I need to uninstall from 'add/remove' > | within the control > | panel, the existing ati drivers that these updates are to > | replace? > | > | Thanks as ever - > | > | Andy > | > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following > link:- > ** > [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on > the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following > link:- > ** > [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on > the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > Get your FREE SECURE email account from http://www.topmail.co.uk > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq