[access-uk] Re: Fw: Response from Lloyds TSB re chip & pin at home

  • From: "Ankers, Dave \(UK\)" <Dave.Ankers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 09:38:17 +0100

Oh go on enlighten him, please
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Dave

and are prepared to compromise on the disabled persons movements
interpretation of the social model of disability too! Furthermore your
claim that a civil court would accept the banks alternative option as a
reasonable adjustment is unfounded, you have no evidence of that
whatsoever. It is extremely unlikely that any UK bank would even allow
such a challenge to come to court.

You have your understanding of what is reasonable, I have mine, and the
interpretation of which would stand in a court would be down to the
ajudication of a district judge. Let's agree to disagree Derek, you
frankly don't understand the UN convention on Human Rights for Disabled
people, and as much as I'd like to enlighten you, I fear this isn't the
place and I've honestly no inclination to do so!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:22 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Response from Lloyds TSB re chip & pin at
home


> Colin said
> "Obviously the principal of being treated at a disadvantage in
> respect to the security implications is beyond the simple
comprehension of
> some on this list!"
>
> No,  some of us just know the meaning of the word "disadvantage"
>
> Those that cannot use the key pads at home are not being told they
cannot
> access the same banking  services at those that can use the key pads.
> They are  simply being allowed to carry on accessing the services
> same way as  now. There is no lower standard of service, there is no
> disadvantage  to  the customer  because  the bank has  guaranteed to
cover
> for fraud.
>
> If this case was in court for a DDA judgment the bank would win,
> because the bank can show  that the blind customers are *not*
> at  a greater  risk, compared to others.
> But not one blind person can show different.
> All that  some can show is that access to the  service is being
offered
> in  a different way, but that's not illegal  under DDA.
>
>
> Regards,
> Derek
>
> e-mail: derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
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