[access-uk] Re: Children of Beslan - Response from the BBC

I hear what you say Carol, just that, if the Beeb is going to say a flat NO to 
on-air voice-over, then we have to take part in a debate about alternatives.  
Distribution of DVDs or videos hadn't struck me as an alternative, and there 
would be a time lag, so we could hardly join in popular discussion of 
programmes that are hot public issues.  I'd have thought that at the very least 
we should be looking to the voice sub-channel, and/or the internet, for 
starters.

I do agree though, that the Beeb's, or independent production companies 
responses thus far are grievously inadequate.
Ray

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carol Pearson" 

Well, Ray, I can only speak for myself and maybe Mike.  We both want to
see that programme, with some voiceover, even shown again or sent out to
those who ask in some useable format.

How they do it is their problem.  We just have the right to see it like
everyone else!


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Carol
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Well Barry, Carol and others, I've been following this thread but I am
sort of losing the thread too!  What is it that is being demanded to
meet our needs, re. subtitling of programmes?  Are we demanding
voice-over always be used?  Or, maybe, an alternate transmission with
voice over for those like us - and others - who cannot follow the very
fast changing subtitles?  Or, again, maybe that the audio-description
channel be used for this purpose?  (Even though not gvery many yet have
access via the Netgem and other devices.

To me it speaks volumes that the deaf community are, or seem to be, far
more readily accomodated than we are.  Makes me think that blindness and
its needs are a real no no for those who, elegedly, have such good
aesthetic sensabilities.  You would have thought the Beeb, public
service broadcasting and all that, would at least make a real effort to
do something along the lines I've mentioned above. Ray

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dj Paddy" 

|I feel exactly the same.
| 
| Alot of time when it comes to television and media like it such as 
| DVD/VHS I
| genuinly don't get bent out of shape.
| 
| But the blazay responses have really got me.  Especially from a 
| company who
| it's the law to fund!  Or at least help with!
| 
| Dj Paddy
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Carol Pearson" 
| 
| > We appreciate it, Ian.
| >
| > All we want is to see that programme with some speech over . . ..
| >
| > I don't want to settle until I get that, even if they have to do it 
| > now for a group of us!
| >
| >
| > --
| > Carol
| > carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
| >
| >
| >
| > -----Original Message-----
| > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
| > Behalf Of Ian Macrae

| >
| >
| > Hi Carol,
| >
| > The response you received is completely inadequate and totally 
| > inappropriate in terms of its content and its language.  I'm pleased

| > to note it came from en employee of capita and not someone from the 
| > Beeb directly.  However, since they represent BBC views, you can be 
| > certain my dander is now up and I'll be pursuing this relentlessly.

| > I'll keep the list posted as to what happens.
| >
| > Cheers now.
| >
| > Ian
| >


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