[access-uk] Re: Children of Beslan - Response from the BBC

  • From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 04:05:18 +0100

Quite agreed, Steve.

OK, I know that some do not have Audio Description at this time but, had
we known enough in advance, some could have recorded for others, invited
them round if they were near, or something like that.


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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 9:24 PM
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Children of Beslan - Response from the BBC


Hi David,

I am not disputing that, but I was just pointing out that audio
description usage, would have satisfied all concerns.  I know someone
sighted who hates people talking over foreign language voices, she likes
to hear the voices themselves, but the audio description track would
have been the solution for her and us.  She wouldn't have to hear it, as
she has no AD, but we would.

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of David W Wood
Sent: 14 September 2005 21:19
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Children of Beslan - Response from the BBC

Mel Steve and all

surely the simple point is one of accessibility.

WE WERE DENIED THE TEXTUAL CONTENT OF THE PROGRAM

David


In message <20050914200835.VDZZ364.mta08-svc.ntlworld.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>, Steve Nutt <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes Hi Mel,
>
>In one way, I agree with the BBC on this, the children's voices should
>be heard.  However, there would have been a simple solution, and that 
>would be to put it on the Audio Description track.  Did you suggest 
>that to them?  I didn't watch it myself, so can't comment, but 
>sometimes, the originator's voice is more important than an 
>interpreter, even if you can't understand it.  But Audio Description 
>would have answered the problem here, because sighted people would not 
>have to hear it.  It could be a distraction to the sighted, we need to
look
at both sides of the coin.
>
>All the best
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>From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>Behalf Of Mel Spooner
>Sent: 14 September 2005 09:06
>To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [access-uk] Children of Beslan - Response from the BBC
>
>Hi All,
>
>Following the discussion on this list about the Children of Beslan
>programme on BBC 2, I wrote and registered a complaint with the BBC.
>Below is my response.
>
>To me, the response is far from satisfactory.  It is, in my opinion,
>like saying that a building can't be made accessible to a wheelchair 
>user because the steps leading up to the entrance are aesthetically 
>pleasing and a ramp would look out of place.
>
>Mel
>
>*** Text Begins ***
>
>Dear Ms Spooner,
>
>Thank you for contacting BBC Information regarding your concerns about
>Children of Beslan which was broadcast on BBC TWO on 30 August 2005.  I

>was sorry to learn of your disappointment in not being able to watch 
>the programme
>
>I have raised your concerns with Fiona Stourton, Executive Producer for
>Children of Beslan.
>
>She explained that the decision to subtitle was made by the production
>team in consultation with the Controller of BBC TWO. The decision was 
>made, after much debate, because it was felt that the children's voices
should be heard.
>Their feelings were expressed as much in the voices as the words. While

>we regret that for the visually impaired this was a disappointment, we 
>felt that to use actors for children who had been through such trauma 
>would have been inappropriate.
>
>I realise that you may still feel strongly about this matter but hope
>the explanation behind this decision is useful.  Please be assured that

>your comments on this matter have been registered and added to a daily 
>log that is made available to senior editorial staff and programme 
>makers. Once again, thank you for taking the time to contact us with 
>the strength of your concerns.
>
>Yours sincerely
>
>Crispian Cousins
>Divisional Advisor
>BBC Information
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