[Wittrs] Re: Current Brain Research: Causal Model?
- From: "SWM" <SWMirsky@xxxxxxx>
- To: wittrsamr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 03:11:26 -0000
--- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "BruceD" <blroadies@...> wrote:
>
> --- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "SWM" <SWMirsky@> wrote:
>
> > ... to account for the presence of consciousness in the universe,
> > we don't need to posit anything more than what physics already tells
> us
>
> is the doctrine of non-emergence, namely, that all experiences of all
> things can be accounted for in terms of physical particles and forces.
Depends what we mean by "emergence". After all, the feature of wetness is, as
Searle puts it, an emergent feature of H2O molecules. Nothing strange or
non-physical there. So what I have described hardly seems to warrant being
labeled a doctrine of non-emergence!
> Why not? The bible says we are made from dust. And so we do all begin as
> a glob. Yet even then the glob has a directionality that is not
> accounted for by the particles and the forces. Why not some day? That's
> the burden of my remarks. To show why and how emergence (not
> non-emergence) is an intrinsic part of nature.
>
> bruce
>
I have no idea what you're getting at with the foregoing. Maybe you can expound
on your point a bit more?
SWM
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