--- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "SWM" <SWMirsky@...> wrote: > ... to account for the presence of consciousness in the universe, > we don't need to posit anything more than what physics already tells us is the doctrine of non-emergence, namely, that all experiences of all things can be accounted for in terms of physical particles and forces. Why not? The bible says we are made from dust. And so we do all begin as a glob. Yet even then the glob has a directionality that is not accounted for by the particles and the forces. Why not some day? That's the burden of my remarks. To show why and how emergence (not non-emergence) is an intrinsic part of nature. bruce ========================================= Need Something? Check here: http://ludwig.squarespace.com/wittrslinks/