[wisb] Re: Men vs. Women - Which of us sees the birds better?
- From: jerry937975@xxxxxxx
- To: wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 21:27:26 -0400
I know that when it comes to birds, I have a much better eye than my wife.
When it comes to finding my car keys, my wife is the gifted one, and she always
seems to find them in the same place... "right under your nose!"
Jerry DeBoer
Central Racine County
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From: Claudia <cgiamati@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sun, Apr 3, 2011 8:16 pm
Subject: [wisb] Re: Men vs. Women - Which of us sees the birds better?
Bernie,
ou are such a gem on this list!! I really appreciate your contributions. My
vidence is anecdotal and not research based , but it would seem that birders
ird the way they were taught or in a way that compliments them. Those with
etter eyesight rely on that. And when the birds are in a high canopy, you have
o rely on hearing!!
y two cents,
g
Knowledge of the path is no substitute for putting one foot in front of the
ther ~ MC Richards
laudia Giamati
hippewa County
On Apr 3, 2011, at 7:25 PM, "B.G. Sloan" <bgsloan2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> This paper doesn't address Andrea's question directly, but it seems to
> suggest
hat men *think* they are better at bird identification than women think they
re...
Cooper, Caren B., and Jennifer A. Smith. Gender Patterns in Bird-related
ecreation in the USA and UK. Ecology and Society. Vol. 15, No. 4, Art. 4. 2010.
ttp://bit.ly/fG7fHf
"Recent work has shown that gender differences in entering competitions were
elated to the gender differences in overconfidence as well as basic gender
references (Niederle and Vesterlund 2007). Males are more likely to be
verconfident, i.e., rank themselves higher than their actual abilities relative
o others, whereas females are more likely to be under confident, i.e., rank
hemselves lower than their actual abilities relative to others (e.g., Beyer
990, Beyer and Bowden 1997). Gender differences in overconfidence are somewhat
ask-dependent, that is, more likely if the task is easy and/or perceived as
eing in the male domain (Lundeberg et al. 1994). Gender differences in
onfidence have been found in other studies of bird-related recreation. For
xample, in a survey of Carolina Bird Club members, males judged their bird
dentification skills higher than females, and 14% of females, compared to <1%
f males, opted to not rank themselves at all
(Moore et al. 2008)."
Bernie Sloan
Milwaukee
--- On Sun, 4/3/11, Andrea Szymczak <harrierhawk1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Andrea Szymczak <harrierhawk1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [wisb] Men vs. Women - Which of us sees the birds better?
> To: wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 7:22 PM
> Before the expected front moves
> through and lights up this listserv with many new species
> reports, I wondered what we all think about this
> question.......
> I've always thought that men often seem to VISUALLY detect
> birds before women do. Perhaps it has something to do
> with our ancestors hunting and having to see a potential
> meal camouflaged in various backgrounds? Personally, I
> rely more on my hearing to help me locate birds. That
> having been said, I remember Bill Cowart once telling me
> that women's visual acuity was better and that they could
> often see distant approaching hawks before the men could.
> Opinions?
> Andrea Szymczak
> Waukesha, WI
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