[wisb] Re: Men vs. Women - Which of us sees the birds better?
- From: Claudia <cgiamati@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "bgsloan2@xxxxxxxxx" <bgsloan2@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 20:16:19 -0500
Bernie,
You are such a gem on this list!! I really appreciate your contributions. My
evidence is anecdotal and not research based , but it would seem that birders
bird the way they were taught or in a way that compliments them. Those with
better eyesight rely on that. And when the birds are in a high canopy, you have
to rely on hearing!!
My two cents,
Cg
Knowledge of the path is no substitute for putting one foot in front of the
other ~ MC Richards
Claudia Giamati
Chippewa County
On Apr 3, 2011, at 7:25 PM, "B.G. Sloan" <bgsloan2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> This paper doesn't address Andrea's question directly, but it seems to
> suggest that men *think* they are better at bird identification than women
> think they are...
>
> Cooper, Caren B., and Jennifer A. Smith. Gender Patterns in Bird-related
> Recreation in the USA and UK. Ecology and Society. Vol. 15, No. 4, Art. 4.
> 2010. http://bit.ly/fG7fHf
>
> "Recent work has shown that gender differences in entering competitions were
> related to the gender differences in overconfidence as well as basic gender
> preferences (Niederle and Vesterlund 2007). Males are more likely to be
> overconfident, i.e., rank themselves higher than their actual abilities
> relative to others, whereas females are more likely to be under confident,
> i.e., rank themselves lower than their actual abilities relative to others
> (e.g., Beyer 1990, Beyer and Bowden 1997). Gender differences in
> overconfidence are somewhat task-dependent, that is, more likely if the task
> is easy and/or perceived as being in the male domain (Lundeberg et al. 1994).
> Gender differences in confidence have been found in other studies of
> bird-related recreation. For example, in a survey of Carolina Bird Club
> members, males judged their bird identification skills higher than females,
> and 14% of females, compared to <1% of males, opted to not rank themselves at
> all
> (Moore et al. 2008)."
>
> Bernie Sloan
> Milwaukee
>
> --- On Sun, 4/3/11, Andrea Szymczak <harrierhawk1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> From: Andrea Szymczak <harrierhawk1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [wisb] Men vs. Women - Which of us sees the birds better?
>> To: wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 7:22 PM
>> Before the expected front moves
>> through and lights up this listserv with many new species
>> reports, I wondered what we all think about this
>> question.......
>> I've always thought that men often seem to VISUALLY detect
>> birds before women do. Perhaps it has something to do
>> with our ancestors hunting and having to see a potential
>> meal camouflaged in various backgrounds? Personally, I
>> rely more on my hearing to help me locate birds. That
>> having been said, I remember Bill Cowart once telling me
>> that women's visual acuity was better and that they could
>> often see distant approaching hawks before the men could.
>> Opinions?
>> Andrea Szymczak
>> Waukesha, WI
>>
>>
>>
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