[windows2000] Re: OT Firewalls
- From: "Greg Reese" <GReese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:20:36 -0500
it is pennies. You are right. But if I had gone with SonicWall or a
Pix I would be just as protected and be at about 4000 total right now
and I wouldn't have to be replacing any equipment to stay that way.
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From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig
http://thin.net
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 1:10 PM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: OT Firewalls
How much would it cost you to clean up if your network was hacked? How
much money would your company lose from downtime. Would you still have
a job?
$7000 is pennies when I start answering those questions. Every 3 years
updating critical hardware is not unrealistic. Bandwidth technology has
improved every few years also...it makes sense to keep your equipment in
line with it.
JK
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From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Greg Reese
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 11:57 AM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: OT Firewalls
My Cisco gear has been in the rack for four years. We keep out
smartnet up to date and have never had a problem. Cisco has never come
back to us and told us we have to replace all our hardware with their
new stuff.
The Firebox X only comes with 90 days of live security so right
off the bat I have to buy more live security. It doesn't include Web
Blocker anymore either. they keep telling me that I only have to buy
the features I need and can upgrade later. That would be great if it
was cheaper but its not. The firebox X 700 now ends up costing me over
$3000.00. I have 125 users and don't use VPN. Then what, in two years
they tell me that the X is being retired and I have to throw it out and
buy the all new XI?
I paid 2000 for the firebox two. I renewed Live Security on it
for two years. I now have over $4000 invested in a firewall that I have
to throw out and spend another $3000 to replace it. $7000 in three
years for internet security is a bit steep for 125 users and no VPN.
Greg
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From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig
http://thin.net
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 11:39 AM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: OT Firewalls
C'mon Greg,
WatchGuard, Rules....it makes sense that you'll need to keep
your firmware up to date to keep up with the latest vulnerabilities and
threats. All the vendors do it especially Cisco. It is planned
obsolescence. I'd get the Firebox X in a heartbeat.
JK
-----Original Message-----
From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Greg Reese
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 11:29 AM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] OT Firewalls
I have been a loyal Watchguard customer for a few years
now but their new strategy of cutting off old products and forcing you
into new ones is pissing me off right now.
I am exploring other options. What are the rest of you
using for firewalls?
I liked Watchguard because I could configure it myself
and they had great support available online. But they dropped support
for the Firebox II and are telling me I have to get a Firebox III. Now
they have come out with the Firebox X. I am sure by the end of the year
they will be telling me I have to upgrade from the III to the X. I
really don't want to play that game. I get enough of that from
Microsoft and Great Plains. I don't need it from my firewall too.
Greg
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