C'mon Greg, WatchGuard, Rules....it makes sense that you'll need to keep your firmware up to date to keep up with the latest vulnerabilities and threats. All the vendors do it especially Cisco. It is planned obsolescence. I'd get the Firebox X in a heartbeat. JK -----Original Message----- From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Greg Reese Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 11:29 AM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] OT Firewalls I have been a loyal Watchguard customer for a few years now but their new strategy of cutting off old products and forcing you into new ones is pissing me off right now. I am exploring other options. What are the rest of you using for firewalls? I liked Watchguard because I could configure it myself and they had great support available online. But they dropped support for the Firebox II and are telling me I have to get a Firebox III. Now they have come out with the Firebox X. I am sure by the end of the year they will be telling me I have to upgrade from the III to the X. I really don't want to play that game. I get enough of that from Microsoft and Great Plains. I don't need it from my firewall too. Greg