Re: winamp library
- From: "Mac Norins" <macatack5@xxxxxxx>
- To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 08:54:17 -0800
Thanks for remembering the additional info, Chris!
-Mac-
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: winamp library
Well, I'm not Jim, of course, but I'm hoping I'm providing a good
answer here. Jim can fill in any holes I left out or any inaccuracies.
Ok. A few versions back, I wanna say it was maybe in the 5.2 series
of Winamp, all of a sudden, the media library changed and became a
whole lot harder to use with screenreaders. Myself and a few others
on this list went to the developers on the Nullsoft Winamp forums and
tried very hard to get them to understand that we did not like the
way the library looked and requested that they change it so that it
would be more accessible, but our requests seemed to fall on deaf
ears. So anyways, Jim developed scripts for JAWS 7.0 which was the
current release then, and it allowed better access to the library
because it was really unreliable to try to use it without the
scripts. So, JAWS 8.0 came out last October, and it had support for
the Winamp library built in, but as Jim said it doesn't seem to do as
well as his scripts did. i didn't have much luck with his scripts,
and to be honest I don't use the library all that much. But I know
others do, so you could go either way, if you have JAWS 8, see how it
works for you. If it doesn't you can contact Jim andget his scripts.
Or, actually, I think they still might be up on the
http://whitestick.co.uk
website. So you might be able to get them there. Hope that helps to
outline how things went, as I remember them anyways.
At 07:51 PM 2/16/2007, you wrote:
>OK, speaking of history, perhaps some of us novices need to understand the
>chronology of the implementation of your scripts and the FS scripts,
>because, frankly, some of us probably have no idea what you are talking
>about. It would be very helpful, indeed, if you would be so kind as to
>paint that history.
>
>-Mac-
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jim Grimsby JR." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 4:27 PM
>Subject: RE: winamp library
>
>
>The hole idea was for these scripts to provide the ability to move about in
>the library. These did infact serve this perpus and wer copied in
>functionality in jaws 8.0 note in my view they did not do as good of a job
>for the tree view luses focus quite a lot when selecting items
>I took steps in my own code to prevent this but fs did not.
>Also for thoughs of you having a problem using the book marks f6 does bring
>the frame in to focus and you can use your arrow keys to move about in this
>list. Hth
>-----Original Message-----
>From: winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mac Norins
>Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 2:54 PM
>To: winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: winamp library
>
>Jim,
>
>Mac Norins, here. What about those scripts, that you wrote, back around
>versions 5.22 and 5.23? Do they have any relevance here? I might be off
>the track, but, maybe not... what do you think about that subject?
>
>Regards,
>
>Mac Norins
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jim Grimsby JR." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 2:48 PM
>Subject: RE: winamp library
>
>
>Nope no sarcasem just stated facts. What is historicly true matters not.
>You must deal with what is true here and now.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Leavens
>Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:24 PM
>To: winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: winamp library
>
>I trust your first sentence isn't an attempt at sardcasm.
>The point is, before this problem reared its ugly head, when winamp
>launched
>
>it gave me something I think is called the main window.
>Anyway, I've solved the problem by downloading an older version of winamp
>from oldversion.com, installing as winamp lite.
>Now, when it launches, I get the "player window". That's more like
>it!!!!!!!!
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jim Grimsby JR." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:30 PM
>Subject: RE: winamp library
>
>
> > Oh well historically is all well and good but you are not dealing with
> > historically you are dealing with here now and so do as we advice and
> > see
> > if it corrects your problem. Historically we on this list give good
> > advice.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Leavens
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 6:49 PM
> > To: winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: winamp library
> >
> > I don't think I should have to do that.
> > Historically, in the good ole days, when winamp was launched, the main
> > window showed up, not some embedded thing!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "arlene" <nedster6@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 8:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: winamp library
> >
> >
> >> Hello: Are you trying to exit the library? If you are, just do alt L
> >> that
> >> will get you out of the Library!
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Doug Leavens" <d.leavens@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:31 PM
> >> Subject: winamp library
> >>
> >>
> >>> Why does winamp kick me into something called "winamp library button"?
> >>> Mor3e to the point, what can I do about it?
> >>> Thanks in advance.
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