Re: winamp library

  • From: Chris Skarstad <toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 01:25:21 -0600

Well, I'm not Jim, of course, but I'm hoping I'm providing a good answer here. Jim can fill in any holes I left out or any inaccuracies.


Ok. A few versions back, I wanna say it was maybe in the 5.2 series of Winamp, all of a sudden, the media library changed and became a whole lot harder to use with screenreaders. Myself and a few others on this list went to the developers on the Nullsoft Winamp forums and tried very hard to get them to understand that we did not like the way the library looked and requested that they change it so that it would be more accessible, but our requests seemed to fall on deaf ears. So anyways, Jim developed scripts for JAWS 7.0 which was the current release then, and it allowed better access to the library because it was really unreliable to try to use it without the scripts. So, JAWS 8.0 came out last October, and it had support for the Winamp library built in, but as Jim said it doesn't seem to do as well as his scripts did. i didn't have much luck with his scripts, and to be honest I don't use the library all that much. But I know others do, so you could go either way, if you have JAWS 8, see how it works for you. If it doesn't you can contact Jim andget his scripts. Or, actually, I think they still might be up on the
http://whitestick.co.uk
website. So you might be able to get them there. Hope that helps to outline how things went, as I remember them anyways.


At 07:51 PM 2/16/2007, you wrote:
OK, speaking of history, perhaps some of us novices need to understand the
chronology of the implementation of your scripts and the FS scripts,
because, frankly, some of us probably have no idea what you are talking
about.  It would be very helpful, indeed, if you would be so kind as to
paint that history.

-Mac-
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Grimsby JR." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 4:27 PM
Subject: RE: winamp library


The hole idea was for these scripts to provide the ability to move about in
the library.   These did infact serve this perpus and wer copied in
functionality in jaws 8.0  note in my view they did not do as good of a job
for the tree view luses focus quite a lot when selecting items
I took steps in my own code to prevent this but fs did not.
Also for thoughs of you having a problem using the book marks f6 does bring
the frame in to focus and you can use your arrow keys to move about in this
list.  Hth
-----Original Message-----
From: winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mac Norins
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 2:54 PM
To: winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: winamp library

Jim,

Mac Norins, here.  What about those scripts, that you wrote, back around
versions 5.22 and 5.23?  Do they have any relevance here?  I might be off
the track, but, maybe not... what do you think about that subject?

Regards,

Mac Norins
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Grimsby JR." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 2:48 PM
Subject: RE: winamp library


Nope no sarcasem just stated facts.  What is historicly true matters not.
You must deal with what is true here and now.

-----Original Message-----
From: winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Leavens
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:24 PM
To: winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: winamp library

I trust your first sentence isn't an attempt at sardcasm.
The point is, before this problem reared its ugly head, when winamp launched

it gave me something I think is called the main window.
Anyway, I've solved the problem by downloading an older version of winamp
from oldversion.com, installing as winamp lite.
Now, when it launches, I get the "player window".  That's more like
it!!!!!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Grimsby JR." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:30 PM
Subject: RE: winamp library


> Oh well historically is all well and good but you are not dealing with
> historically  you are dealing with here now and so do as we advice and see
> if it corrects your problem. Historically we on this list give good
> advice.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Leavens
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 6:49 PM
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> I don't think I should have to do that.
> Historically, in the good ole days, when winamp was launched, the main
> window showed up, not some embedded thing!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "arlene" <nedster6@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 8:31 PM
> Subject: Re: winamp library
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>
>> Hello: Are you trying to exit the library? If you are, just do alt L that
>> will get you out of the Library!
>> ----- Original Message -----
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>> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:31 PM
>> Subject: winamp library
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>>
>>> Why does winamp kick me into something called "winamp library button"?
>>> Mor3e to the point, what can I do about it?
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