Hi guys,
As I mentioned a bit ago, I've had the Tempo track issue as well as JPR.
In my case, it has only occured right after recording multiple audio
tracks (at least 10) and as soon as I press stop. I have not had the
issue while or right after using the eq116 however.
Also, when it has happened, up and down arrows do not allow me to get
off the current track.
I look forward to your new build Steve.
thanks,
Floyd...
On 3/14/21, Steve Spamer <stevespamer68@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
OK JP. I have tried it with your instructions, but can’t get it not to work,--
if you know what I mean.
Anyway, I’ve now amended things so that the logic to determine if it’s a
tempo track or not is using another method. So, hopefully, this will solve
things, we’ll only know when you give the new scripts a run out.
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Hi Steve,
not exactly. After closing the EQ, I go to a different track, and the
project I was on has about 30 of them, But I don't really think the number
of track matters, so I go to a different track and press alt l to change its
volume, or g To tweak an inserted effect on this track, and that's when I
get this message saying it's a tempo track.
Then, I tab to the solo button and press enter on it, and enter again to
disable solo, and then it seems alt l Works again.
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Le 14/03/2021 à 17:55, Steve Spamer a écrit :
Hi JP. So, just to clarify, as I’ll try this.
1, You insert the EQ116 on to a track.
2, you close the EQ.
3, You then got a message saying it’s a tempo track?, is that correct? Just
to note here, there probably isn’t a tempo track, it’s just the scripts that
have obtained information that tells the scripts it’s a tempo track, and
that’s what I will try to replace, the logic that determines if it’s a tempo
track or not., as currently it’s too flaky.
I then presume tabbing didn’t resolve things, it was entering on the solo?
I’ll give it a go.
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all right Steve. So I reopen the project I was working on yesterday. At
first, I couldn't get Samplitude to act strange again. Then, I Remembered
what I did yesterday, I used EQ 116 on the track. So I did the same but on
another track. After closing EQ 116, I discovered that yet another track,
one that I didn't touch, showed up as a tempo track. Then I did what you
said, tabbed around and activated its solo button, not using the shortcut
but the enter key. after that, I could activate its volume shortcut as
expected.
Does this make sense to you?
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Le 14/03/2021 à 13:17, Steve Spamer a écrit :
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Hi JP. Thanks for the info. It certainly sounds like a zooming issue. The
problem is that there are times when a track can be zoomed out, and this
might happen when certain actions are taken, knowing exactly and
consistently is the key here.
I’m hopefully going to change the current way to identify a tempo track, as
it’s obviously too flaky. I have a new build ready to put out, so I’ll try
to get something done today or tomorrow and then I’ll release the new
scripts. If it happens again, could you just try tabbing across the track
header, so to solo, mute etc, and see if that resolves things, because I’m
sure I put some stuff in to zoom the track to the correct ratio when doing
that and controls cannot be found. Thanks again.
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Hi Steve,
so, that tempo thing showed up again, but I was in the middle of a session
with other musicians And couldn't experiment too much. This time, opening
and closing the browser did not work, but I found another workaround. This
message saying unavailable this is a tempo track appears when Typing Hotkeys
like alt l, alt p or g. but if I tab to the volume field and press enter, it
does open. And I think, though I'm not entirely sure, that after changing a
tracks volume, the other hotkeys start working again on this particular
track. When it happens, it happens on some tracks and not others, and I
can't for the moment tell what's particular about those tracks. Furthermore,
I have no tempo track on these projects.
I can't remember if you said you could reproduce that at least once on your
system.
I keep investigating.
Cheers,
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Le 12/03/2021 à 12:21, Steve Spamer a écrit :
Thanks JP. As I’ve said, if things can be improved I’ll do it, but I agree
that Magix now need to address this window, because it’s the most important
area in which we work im, yet it’s probably the most scripted.
Yes, I guess you missed my e mail I put out a couple of weeks ago, but the
VST 3 issue has been fixed, thanks to yourself nailing it down. I was able
to get another beta forum member to do a specific test, and they got the
same problem. It was a bug with the accessibility flag that deals with
showing edits in the parameter view.
I will be putting out a new build of the scripts in the coming days, so
users will be able to update if they wish, stay tuned.
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Hi Steve.
About the object thing, when you say the information is not super important,
I don't think I could do without it now. It is so comfortable to get the
name of the object you just selected. I think it is now time for Magix To
keep their promises, and I know you did all you could…
About the tracks being reported as tempo tracks, it happens randomly, and at
least I have a workaround to restore things to normal, which is opening and
closing the effect browser, it seems to always work.
If anything new I let you know. Do you know if the VST 3 quirk has been
solved?
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Le 11/03/2021 à 21:35, Steve Spamer a écrit :
Regarding the object thing. As I've said many times before, the >
VIP/Arranger window is extremely complex, due to how tracks are >
displayed and zoomed. The scripts have to rely on some aspects of the > UI
that fit into that complexity, hence making them less reliable > then I
would like. I've gone over different ways of tackling some of > the core
issues lots of times, but the bottom line is, it's very > difficult to get
a 100% success rate all the time. However, I am > always thinking of
improving things., but Magix really have to step > up to the plate to
address some of these issues. > > JP, regarding the tempo being reported.
Can you reproduce this all > the time? When a tempo track is reported,
it's usually down to 1 of 2 > things. One being another window obscuring
part of the screen and the > other being a zoom issue. > > What exactly do
you do with volume and effects to make this happen? A > solution to both
of these problems is to possibly do away with some > specific feedback we
get, as things break down in both scenarios due > to the scripts trying to
obtain information the user may want to > know. > > For example, it's not
super imperative that a user is told the track > they're on is a tempo
track IMO, and it wouldn't be the end of the > world if you weren't
informed of whether or not an object is present > on the track, as the OE
just wouldn't open. It's a matter of trying > to give info people need to
make the experience easier, but this kind > of info isn't given in all the
currently accessible DAW's I don't > think. > > If you have the steps to
repro the tempo issue JP, let me know and > I'll look into it. Otherwise,
I'll put my thinking cap on with both > of these issues. > > Also, if
users want this feedback to be taken away, I'm up for > considering it.
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Slightly odd behaviour > > Hi Steve and all. > > I get this occasionally
too. I seem to remember it is not related to > a specific project, and
restarting Samplitude often cures it. If it > shows back, I'll give it
some more attention. > > The other thing I'm getting, and maybe it's worth
starting a new > subject about this one, is tracks showing as tempo tracks
when I want > to change their volume or add an effect. > > The cure I
found for this one is to press the letter B to open the > effect browser
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Hi Ian. I have seen this occasionally as well, but it's a tricky >> oneLe 11/03/2021 à 18:53, Steve Spamer a écrit :
to reproduce, hence difficult to solve. >> >> When we select an object,
the script is taking information from the >> values that Samplitude
populates, like object length etc. So, if >> these values get populated
when pressing a keystroke to select an >> object, then the script knows
there's an object, if it doesn't get >> it, it presumes there isn't. >>
the difficult part. Maybe it's just a timing issue, I guess it is, >> butNow, if this wasn't working, it would fail every time, and that's >>
I'll take a look at this specific code and see if it can be >> improved.
Needless to say, if you get a project that shows this >> behaviour
consistently, then let me know. >> >> Timing could always be increased,
but I'd be hesitant to do that, >> as it has a real impact on useability.
The only other thing to do >> is to not have that feedback. Anyway, leave
it with me and if I can >> do something I will. Best Steve. -----Original
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