Hi JP. Thanks for the info. It certainly sounds like a zooming issue. The
problem is that there are times when a track can be zoomed out, and this might
happen when certain actions are taken, knowing exactly and consistently is the
key here.
I’m hopefully going to change the current way to identify a tempo track, as
it’s obviously too flaky. I have a new build ready to put out, so I’ll try to
get something done today or tomorrow and then I’ll release the new scripts. If
it happens again, could you just try tabbing across the track header, so to
solo, mute etc, and see if that resolves things, because I’m sure I put some
stuff in to zoom the track to the correct ratio when doing that and controls
cannot be found. Thanks again.
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Hi Steve,
so, that tempo thing showed up again, but I was in the middle of a session with
other musicians And couldn't experiment too much. This time, opening and
closing the browser did not work, but I found another workaround. This message
saying unavailable this is a tempo track appears when Typing Hotkeys like alt
l, alt p or g. but if I tab to the volume field and press enter, it does open.
And I think, though I'm not entirely sure, that after changing a tracks volume,
the other hotkeys start working again on this particular track. When it
happens, it happens on some tracks and not others, and I can't for the moment
tell what's particular about those tracks. Furthermore, I have no tempo track
on these projects.
I can't remember if you said you could reproduce that at least once on your
system.
I keep investigating.
Cheers,
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Le 12/03/2021 à 12:21, Steve Spamer a écrit :
Thanks JP. As I’ve said, if things can be improved I’ll do it, but I agree that
Magix now need to address this window, because it’s the most important area in
which we work im, yet it’s probably the most scripted.
Yes, I guess you missed my e mail I put out a couple of weeks ago, but the VST
3 issue has been fixed, thanks to yourself nailing it down. I was able to get
another beta forum member to do a specific test, and they got the same problem.
It was a bug with the accessibility flag that deals with showing edits in the
parameter view.
I will be putting out a new build of the scripts in the coming days, so users
will be able to update if they wish, stay tuned.
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Hi Steve.
About the object thing, when you say the information is not super important, I
don't think I could do without it now. It is so comfortable to get the name of
the object you just selected. I think it is now time for Magix To keep their
promises, and I know you did all you could…
About the tracks being reported as tempo tracks, it happens randomly, and at
least I have a workaround to restore things to normal, which is opening and
closing the effect browser, it seems to always work.
If anything new I let you know. Do you know if the VST 3 quirk has been solved?
Cheers,
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Le 11/03/2021 à 21:35, Steve Spamer a écrit :
Regarding the object thing. As I've said many times before, the >
VIP/Arranger window is extremely complex, due to how tracks are > displayed
and zoomed. The scripts have to rely on some aspects of the > UI that fit
into that complexity, hence making them less reliable > then I would like.
I've gone over different ways of tackling some of > the core issues lots of
times, but the bottom line is, it's very > difficult to get a 100% success
rate all the time. However, I am > always thinking of improving things., but
Magix really have to step > up to the plate to address some of these issues.
time? When a tempo track is reported, it's usually down to 1 of 2 > things.JP, regarding the tempo being reported. Can you reproduce this all > the
One being another window obscuring part of the screen and the > other being a
zoom issue. > > What exactly do you do with volume and effects to make this
happen? A > solution to both of these problems is to possibly do away with
some > specific feedback we get, as things break down in both scenarios due >
to the scripts trying to obtain information the user may want to > know. > >
For example, it's not super imperative that a user is told the track >
they're on is a tempo track IMO, and it wouldn't be the end of the > world if
you weren't informed of whether or not an object is present > on the track,
as the OE just wouldn't open. It's a matter of trying > to give info people
need to make the experience easier, but this kind > of info isn't given in
all the currently accessible DAW's I don't > think. > > If you have the steps
to repro the tempo issue JP, let me know and > I'll look into it. Otherwise,
I'll put my thinking cap on with both > of these issues. > > Also, if users
want this feedback to be taken away, I'm up for > considering it. Best Steve.
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Slightly odd behaviour > > Hi Steve and all. > > I get this occasionally too.
I seem to remember it is not related to > a specific project, and restarting
Samplitude often cures it. If it > shows back, I'll give it some more
attention. > > The other thing I'm getting, and maybe it's worth starting a
new > subject about this one, is tracks showing as tempo tracks when I want >
to change their volume or add an effect. > > The cure I found for this one is
to press the letter B to open the > effect browser and close it with escape.
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Le 11/03/2021 à 18:53, Steve Spamer a écrit :Hi Ian. I have seen this occasionally as well, but it's a tricky >> one to
reproduce, hence difficult to solve. >> >> When we select an object, the
script is taking information from the >> values that Samplitude populates,
like object length etc. So, if >> these values get populated when pressing a
keystroke to select an >> object, then the script knows there's an object,
if it doesn't get >> it, it presumes there isn't. >> >> Now, if this wasn't
working, it would fail every time, and that's >> the difficult part. Maybe
it's just a timing issue, I guess it is, >> but I'll take a look at this
specific code and see if it can be >> improved. Needless to say, if you get
a project that shows this >> behaviour consistently, then let me know. >> >>
Timing could always be increased, but I'd be hesitant to do that, >> as it
has a real impact on useability. The only other thing to do >> is to not
have that feedback. Anyway, leave it with me and if I can >> do something I
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9.1 >> >> Hi Steve >> >> I've been getting some slightly odd behaviour when
selecting >> objects. JAWS keeps reporting object can't be found or no
object >> selected, however, an object is selected as I'm able to open the
JAWS keeps reporting object not visible. This is intermittent >> behaviourobject manager. And at other times I can't select an object at all, >>
and difficult to reproduce at will. I've not updated yet >> as you suggested
a while ago not too. But, I'm wondering if >> updating may help. Any advice
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