Hi Steve,
not exactly. After closing the EQ, I go to a different track, and the
project I was on has about 30 of them, But I don't really think the
number of track matters, so I go to a different track and press alt l to
change its volume, or g To tweak an inserted effect on this track, and
that's when I get this message saying it's a tempo track.
Then, I tab to the solo button and press enter on it, and enter again to
disable solo, and then it seems alt l Works again.
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Le 14/03/2021 à 17:55, Steve Spamer a écrit :
Hi JP. So, just to clarify, as I’ll try this.
1, You insert the EQ116 on to a track.
2, you close the EQ.
3, You then got a message saying it’s a tempo track?, is that correct? Just to note here, there probably isn’t a tempo track, it’s just the scripts that have obtained information that tells the scripts it’s a tempo track, and that’s what I will try to replace, the logic that determines if it’s a tempo track or not., as currently it’s too flaky.
I then presume tabbing didn’t resolve things, it was entering on the solo?
I’ll give it a go.
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_all right Steve. So I reopen the project I was working on yesterday. At first, I couldn't get Samplitude to act strange again. Then, I Remembered what I did yesterday, I used EQ 116 on the track. So I did the same but on another track. After closing EQ 116, I discovered that yet another track, one that I didn't touch, showed up as a tempo track. Then I did what you said, tabbed around and activated its solo button, not using the shortcut but the enter key. after that, I could activate its volume shortcut as expected._
_Does this make sense to you?_
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_Hi JP. Thanks for the info. It certainly sounds like a zooming
issue. The problem is that there are times when a track can be
zoomed out, and this might happen when certain actions are taken,
knowing exactly and consistently is the key here._
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_I’m hopefully going to change the current way to identify a tempo
track, as it’s obviously too flaky. I have a new build ready to
put out, so I’ll try to get something done today or tomorrow and
then I’ll release the new scripts. If it happens again, could you
just try tabbing across the track header, so to solo, mute etc,
and see if that resolves things, because I’m sure I put some stuff
in to zoom the track to the correct ratio when doing that and
controls cannot be found. Thanks again._
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_Hi Steve,_
_so, that tempo thing showed up again, but I was in the middle of
a session with other musicians And couldn't experiment too much.
This time, opening and closing the browser did not work, but I
found another workaround. This message saying unavailable this is
a tempo track appears when Typing Hotkeys like alt l, alt p or g.
but if I tab to the volume field and press enter, it does open.
And I think, though I'm not entirely sure, that after changing a
tracks volume, the other hotkeys start working again on this
particular track. When it happens, it happens on some tracks and
not others, and I can't for the moment tell what's particular
about those tracks. Furthermore, I have no tempo track on these
projects._
_I can't remember if you said you could reproduce that at least
once on your system._
_I keep investigating._
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_Le 12/03/2021 à 12:21, Steve Spamer a écrit :_
_Thanks JP. As I’ve said, if things can be improved I’ll do
it, but I agree that Magix now need to address this window,
because it’s the most important area in which we work im, yet
it’s probably the most scripted._
__
_Yes, I guess you missed my e mail I put out a couple of weeks
ago, but the VST 3 issue has been fixed, thanks to yourself
nailing it down. I was able to get another beta forum member
to do a specific test, and they got the same problem. It was a
bug with the accessibility flag that deals with showing edits
in the parameter view._
__
_I will be putting out a new build of the scripts in the
coming days, so users will be able to update if they wish,
stay tuned._
__
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_Hi Steve._
_About the object thing, when you say the information is not
super important, I don't think I could do without it now. It
is so comfortable to get the name of the object you just
selected. I think it is now time for Magix To keep their
promises, and I know you did all you could…_
_About the tracks being reported as tempo tracks, it happens
randomly, and at least I have a workaround to restore things
to normal, which is opening and closing the effect browser, it
seems to always work._
_If anything new I let you know. Do you know if the VST 3
quirk has been solved?_
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Le 11/03/2021 à 21:35, Steve Spamer a écrit :
> Regarding the object thing. As I've said many times before, the >
VIP/Arranger window is extremely
complex, due to how tracks are > displayed and zoomed. The
scripts have to rely on some aspects of the > UI that fit into
that complexity, hence making them less reliable > then I
would like. I've gone over different ways of tackling some of
> the core issues lots of times, but the bottom line is, it's
very > difficult to get a 100% success rate all the time.
However, I am > always thinking of improving things., but
Magix really have to step > up to the plate to address some of
these issues. > > JP, regarding the tempo being reported. Can
you reproduce this all > the time? When a tempo track is
reported, it's usually down to 1 of 2 > things. One being
another window obscuring part of the screen and the > other
being a zoom issue. > > What exactly do you do with volume and
effects to make this happen? A > solution to both of these
problems is to possibly do away with some > specific feedback
we get, as things break down in both scenarios due > to the
scripts trying to obtain information the user may want to >
know. > > For example, it's not super imperative that a user
is told the track > they're on is a tempo track IMO, and it
wouldn't be the end of the > world if you weren't informed of
whether or not an object is present > on the track, as the OE
just wouldn't open. It's a matter of trying > to give info
people need to make the experience easier, but this kind > of
info isn't given in all the currently accessible DAW's I don't
> think. > > If you have the steps to repro the tempo issue
JP, let me know and > I'll look into it. Otherwise, I'll put
my thinking cap on with both > of these issues. > > Also, if
users want this feedback to be taken away, I'm up for >
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all. > > I get this occasionally too. I seem to remember it is
not related to > a specific project, and restarting Samplitude
often cures it. If it > shows back, I'll give it some more
attention. > > The other thing I'm getting, and maybe it's
worth starting a new > subject about this one, is tracks
showing as tempo tracks when I want > to change their volume
or add an effect. > > The cure I found for this one is to
press the letter B to open the > effect browser and close it
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>> Hi Ian. I have seen this occasionally as well, but it's a tricky >>
one to reproduce, hence
difficult to solve. >> >> When we select an object, the script
is taking information from the >> values that Samplitude
populates, like object length etc. So, if >> these values get
populated when pressing a keystroke to select an >> object,
then the script knows there's an object, if it doesn't get >>
it, it presumes there isn't. >> >> Now, if this wasn't
working, it would fail every time, and that's >> the difficult
part. Maybe it's just a timing issue, I guess it is, >> but
I'll take a look at this specific code and see if it can be >>
improved. Needless to say, if you get a project that shows
this >> behaviour consistently, then let me know. >> >> Timing
could always be increased, but I'd be hesitant to do that, >>
as it has a real impact on useability. The only other thing to
do >> is to not have that feedback. Anyway, leave it with me
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slightly odd behaviour when selecting >> objects. JAWS keeps
reporting object can't be found or no object >> selected,
however, an object is selected as I'm able to open the >>
object manager. And at other times I can't select an object at
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