Hi Ron, Yes it's in a roll pin socket, so will be able to remove and replace a number of times easily. I will go and look up the 27C64, or make up an adaptor for something larger and see what can be done, thanks. Thank you, Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: Ronald Carlson To: tunerpro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: ronald.carlson.54@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 10:29 PM Subject: [tunerpro] Re: Jetronic LE3 programming Martin, If it's equivalent to a 27C64 then making copies and being able to modify it will be easy. It should run with an EPROM in place of the OTP. Is the OTP socketed so it could be removed and the contents dumped on a Programmer? Desoldering requires care though. Ron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Faulks <faulks_m@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: tunerpro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 4:16:36 PM Subject: [tunerpro] Re: Jetronic LE3 programming Thank you both Ron and ECU Boost much appreciate your fast response. Ron, the chip is OTP without the window for erasing, so ties in nicely with your description for the two date codes. Yes I can post a photo, I will take one and upload a link. Thanks you, Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: Ronald Carlson To: tunerpro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: ronald.carlson.54@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 7:17 PM Subject: [tunerpro] Re: Jetronic LE3 programming Martin, The Signetics chip number doesn't match the usual EPROM or PROM numbers, not even close, looks like it may be waht is called a "house number", which is an internal partnumber between the manufacturer and high volume customers. Does is have a transparent window on the top? That would be the UV light earsure window for clearing the data. The second and third lines look like date codes - 1st week of 1990, and 34th week of 1989. Two date codes are unusual unless it's a "one-time programmable" (no window), in which case the earlier date is the manufacturing date and later date is the programming date which ties to the data file they used. Can you post a photo of the chip on the board? Ron ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Faulks <faulks_m@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: tunerpro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:00:06 PM Subject: [tunerpro] Jetronic LE3 programming Dear list, Looking for some help, wish to program the Jetronic injection system. I have a LE3 version fitted to a Fiat Uno turbo. The pcb is fitted with a socketed 16 pin IC (chip), I believe likely a TTL PROM or similar, and I know people have changed these for different injector duty cycle - fuel maps etc. I have a standard chip and wanted to experiment. My question, does anyone know and please tell me what the IC is so I can purchase some blanks and start experiment? I have access to EPROM and Prom programmers. The OE programmed chip is a Signetics chip, with number: B57586 2nd and third line: 9001 8934. Any hints or pointers would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Martin