Well I deleted a program a few minutes ago. JV didn't find anything. Nor did S&B. BUT regseeker did. About a dozen. I guess I will see tomorrow what damage I did, because I deleted them. Regseeker has caused me to delete things I needed before. So we shall see. OH yes and easy cleaner found a few too. Juanita Jim, familiarity breeds content, says the old adage. I'm familiar with jv16 enough to prefer it over others, yet I'm aware of the fact that it doesn't "get them all", as you already stated. It's the same with the spyware removers, AdAware gets stuff Spybot doesn't, and vice-versa. I use them all, except the pay-for-it.(LOL) armando On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:42:40 -0600, "Jim Moss" wrote: Thanks A, I am trying the trial version but it does not do much without paying. Jv16 "pay Version" looks good also, but since I have the free version I do not see that the paid version is that much better. Jim Moss Check your PC for viruses with the FREE McAfee online computer scan. VIEW ARCHIVES @ //www.freelists.org UNSUBSCRIBE by sending email to triadtechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the Subject field. To VIEW/CHANGE your subscription status go to //www.freelists.org/webpage/triadtechtalk Contact List Owner - dbcfour@xxxxxxx ________________________________________________ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com VIEW ARCHIVES @ //www.freelists.org UNSUBSCRIBE by sending email to triadtechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the Subject field. To VIEW/CHANGE your subscription status go to //www.freelists.org/webpage/triadtechtalk Contact List Owner - dbcfour@xxxxxxx --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.553 / Virus Database: 345 - Release Date: 12/18/03 VIEW ARCHIVES @ //www.freelists.org UNSUBSCRIBE by sending email to triadtechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the Subject field. To VIEW/CHANGE your subscription status go to //www.freelists.org/webpage/triadtechtalk Contact List Owner - dbcfour@xxxxxxx