Bit of an update, I have my hummer successfully flashed, So it goes right into basic, in color ( on the lcd screen, I found a setting it liked ) Hey and it's not 3:00 AM... :) I'm about to remove the resisters from the user port... :) and may actually get to soldering them onto a 9 pin port. I may bring the other buttons forward as well... if not for joysticks Then for Control ports... evidently these can be written to as well as read According to an email I got from Jerri... :)