[tinwhiskers] Re: The compliance with EU materials dictates and the precautionary principal
- From: "Bob Landman" <rlandman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <tinwhiskers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:54:56 -0400
works for me still - black hole must be very small and in your computer :-)!
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precautionary principal
I tried that link and it did not work; "The page could not be found."
Evidently it vanished into a Black Hole.
True Irony.
Steve Smith
BL> Great explanation at YouTube
BL> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8Vr00EBHA
BL> Michio Kaku: Mini Black Holes and the Large Hadron Collider
BL> Bob Landman
BL>
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BL> [mailto:tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Smith
BL> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 8:17 PM
BL> To: John Burke
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BL> Subject: [tinwhiskers] Re: The compliance with EU materials dictates
BL> and the precautionary principal
BL> John and all,
BL> Please don't worry about this.
BL> Stephen Hawking won a prize from the Gravitational Research
BL> Foundation in 1973 for a landmark paper proving that black holes
BL> radiate, and the smaller ones radiate faster, and the radiation rate
BL> increases very rapidly as they get smaller.
BL> That, incidentally, is why there are not any quantum black holes.
BL> They are about as unstable as you could get, self-converting into
BL> radiation in one Chronon (a quantum unit of time. I have no idea
BL> how small it is, but it's very small).
BL> The mass-equivalence of 17 Tev is more than twelve orders of
BL> magnitude below a microgram, according to my "The Energy Level of
BL> Things" on my wall here. I could have calculated it but it's been a long
day and this was faster.
BL> Even if we could make a 100Kg black hole, we would need something
BL> almost twenty orders of magnitude bigger than that piddly little
BL> Large Hadron Collider. Avogadro's number looks about right.
BL> Relax. Those folks publishing that paper evidently never read
BL> Hawking's paper, or looked at the energy level of things.
BL> Steve Smith
BL> ps: John, please forward to those other lists; I'm not subscribed to them.
JB>> Just a little food for thought.
JB>> While we are busily falling into line with materials policy
JB>> dictates from Europe based on the precautionary principal, I
JB>> thought you might find it interesting to see what is taking place
JB>> in Europe with total disregard for the same principal.
JB>> As you are probably aware the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) project
JB>> blew up last year during commissioning. The collider is able to
JB>> collide particles with energy levels up to I believe 17TeV, and is
JB>> in the process of being repaired prior to re-commissioning.
JB>> At this power the scientists involved are expecting to find new
JB>> particles and are also anticipating the production of 5 dimensional
JB>> black holes as an outcome.
JB>> The attached reference link is to the high energy particle physics
JB>> site. The paper entitled "On the Possibility of Catastrophic Black
JB>> Hole Growth in the Warped Brane-World Scenario at the LHC"
JB>> Describes the "likely" size of such black holes and assures that they are
not liable to reach a "critical mass"
JB>> of 100Kg - at which point presumably everything in the area would
JB>> be sucked into said black hole swiftly followed by the rest of the
JB>> solar system.....they did not probe that scenario...
JB>> Here are the links:
JB>> http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0901/0901.2948v2.pdf
JB>> and...
JB>> http://arxiv.org/abs/0901.2948
JB>> No I am not joking this is a real paper on a real site - and I for
JB>> one just hope that their assumptions and math about particles they
JB>> have never seen are correct.
JB>> So much for the "precautionary principal"!
JB>> John Burke
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