[tinwhiskers] Re: The compliance with EU materials dictates and the precautionary principal
- From: "Cronk, William CIV USA AMC" <william.c.cronk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <tinwhiskers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:19:24 -0400
ALL:
Try this location:
http://www.savevid.com/video/michio-kaku-mini-black-holes-and-the-large-
hadron-collider.html
On the right side there are other videos Dr. Kaku has done including one
on anti-matter.
Bill Cronk
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[mailto:tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Burke
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Subject: [tinwhiskers] Re: The compliance with EU materials dictates and
the precautionary principal
Bob - now THAT is funny.
So consider this - with all of our technology we can see black holes in
the universe. BUT have you ever considered that since we can see them,
that by definition any electro magnetic signal that emanated from the
area BEFORE they turned into a black hole passed this solar system ages
ago?
So here is a scenario, if you could catch a radio signal just before the
black hole formed it might have composed of this transmission........
"Switching on the Large Hadron Collider Nooooooooooooooooooooowww....."
Have a great Friday all wherever you are in the World.
Best regards
John Burke
(408) 515 4992
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[mailto:tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Smith
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 10:40 AM
To: Bob Landman
Subject: [tinwhiskers] Re: The compliance with EU materials dictates and
the precautionary principal
I tried that link and it did not work; "The page could not be found."
Evidently it vanished into a Black Hole.
True Irony.
Steve Smith
BL> Great explanation at YouTube
BL> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8Vr00EBHA
BL> Michio Kaku: Mini Black Holes and the Large Hadron Collider
BL> Bob Landman
BL>
BL> -----Original Message-----
BL> From: tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
BL> [mailto:tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Smith
BL> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 8:17 PM
BL> To: John Burke
BL> Cc: tinwhiskers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
BL> Subject: [tinwhiskers] Re: The compliance with EU materials dictates
BL> and the precautionary principal
BL> John and all,
BL> Please don't worry about this.
BL> Stephen Hawking won a prize from the Gravitational Research
BL> Foundation in 1973 for a landmark paper proving that black holes
BL> radiate, and the smaller ones radiate faster, and the radiation rate
BL> increases very rapidly as they get smaller.
BL> That, incidentally, is why there are not any quantum black holes.
BL> They are about as unstable as you could get, self-converting into
BL> radiation in one Chronon (a quantum unit of time. I have no idea
BL> how small it is, but it's very small).
BL> The mass-equivalence of 17 Tev is more than twelve orders of
BL> magnitude below a microgram, according to my "The Energy Level of
BL> Things" on my wall here. I could have calculated it but it's been a
long day and this was faster.
BL> Even if we could make a 100Kg black hole, we would need something
BL> almost twenty orders of magnitude bigger than that piddly little
BL> Large Hadron Collider. Avogadro's number looks about right.
BL> Relax. Those folks publishing that paper evidently never read
BL> Hawking's paper, or looked at the energy level of things.
BL> Steve Smith
BL> ps: John, please forward to those other lists; I'm not subscribed
BL> to
them.
JB>> Just a little food for thought.
JB>> While we are busily falling into line with materials policy
JB>> dictates from Europe based on the precautionary principal, I
JB>> thought you might find it interesting to see what is taking place
JB>> in Europe with total disregard for the same principal.
JB>> As you are probably aware the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) project
JB>> blew up last year during commissioning. The collider is able to
JB>> collide particles with energy levels up to I believe 17TeV, and is
JB>> in the process of being repaired prior to re-commissioning.
JB>> At this power the scientists involved are expecting to find new
JB>> particles and are also anticipating the production of 5 dimensional
JB>> black holes as an outcome.
JB>> The attached reference link is to the high energy particle physics
JB>> site. The paper entitled "On the Possibility of Catastrophic Black
JB>> Hole Growth in the Warped Brane-World Scenario at the LHC"
JB>> Describes the "likely" size of such black holes and assures that
JB>> they are not
liable to reach a "critical mass"
JB>> of 100Kg - at which point presumably everything in the area would
JB>> be sucked into said black hole swiftly followed by the rest of the
JB>> solar system.....they did not probe that scenario...
JB>> Here are the links:
JB>> http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0901/0901.2948v2.pdf
JB>> and...
JB>> http://arxiv.org/abs/0901.2948
JB>> No I am not joking this is a real paper on a real site - and I for
JB>> one just hope that their assumptions and math about particles they
JB>> have never seen are correct.
JB>> So much for the "precautionary principal"!
JB>> John Burke
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BL> Steve
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