[tinwhiskers] Re: The compliance with EU materials dictates and the precautionary principal

  • From: "John Burke" <john@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tinwhiskers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:05:13 -0700

Bob - now THAT is funny.

So consider this - with all of our technology we can see black holes in the
universe. BUT have you ever considered that since we can see them, that by
definition any electro magnetic signal that emanated from the area BEFORE
they turned into a black hole passed this solar system ages ago?

So here is a scenario, if you could catch a radio signal just before the
black hole formed it might have composed of this transmission........

 "Switching on the Large Hadron Collider Nooooooooooooooooooooowww....."

Have a great Friday all wherever you are in the World.

Best regards

John Burke
(408) 515 4992


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Smith
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 10:40 AM
To: Bob Landman
Subject: [tinwhiskers] Re: The compliance with EU materials dictates and the
precautionary principal

I tried that link and it did not work;  "The page could not be found."

Evidently it vanished into a Black Hole.

True Irony.

Steve Smith

BL> Great explanation at YouTube
BL> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8Vr00EBHA
BL> Michio Kaku: Mini Black Holes and the Large Hadron Collider

BL> Bob Landman
BL>  

BL> -----Original Message-----
BL> From: tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
BL> [mailto:tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Smith
BL> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 8:17 PM
BL> To: John Burke
BL> Cc: tinwhiskers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
BL> Subject: [tinwhiskers] Re: The compliance with EU materials
BL> dictates and the precautionary principal

BL> John and all,

BL> Please don't worry about this.

BL> Stephen Hawking won a prize from the Gravitational Research
BL> Foundation in 1973 for a landmark paper proving that black holes
BL> radiate, and the smaller ones radiate faster, and the radiation
BL> rate increases very rapidly as they get smaller.

BL> That, incidentally, is why there are not any quantum black holes.
BL> They are about as unstable as you could get, self-converting into
BL> radiation in one Chronon (a quantum unit of time.  I have no idea
BL> how small it is, but it's very small).

BL> The mass-equivalence of 17 Tev is more than twelve orders of
BL> magnitude below a microgram, according to my "The Energy Level of
BL> Things" on my wall here.  I could have calculated it but it's been a
long day and this was faster.

BL> Even if we could make a 100Kg black hole, we would need something
BL> almost twenty orders of magnitude bigger than that piddly little
BL> Large Hadron Collider.   Avogadro's number looks about right.

BL> Relax.  Those folks publishing that paper evidently never read
BL> Hawking's paper, or looked at the energy level of things.

BL> Steve Smith

BL> ps:  John, please forward to those other lists;  I'm not subscribed to
them.

JB>> Just a little food for thought.

JB>> While we are busily falling into line with materials policy dictates 
JB>> from Europe based on the precautionary principal, I thought you 
JB>> might find it interesting to see what is taking place in Europe with 
JB>> total disregard for the same principal.

JB>> As you are probably aware the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) project 
JB>> blew up last year during commissioning. The collider is able to 
JB>> collide particles with energy levels up to I believe 17TeV, and is 
JB>> in the process of being repaired prior to re-commissioning.

JB>> At this power the scientists involved are expecting to find new 
JB>> particles and are also anticipating the production of 5 dimensional 
JB>> black holes as an outcome.

JB>> The attached reference link is to the high energy particle physics 
JB>> site. The paper entitled "On the Possibility of Catastrophic Black 
JB>> Hole Growth in the Warped Brane-World Scenario at the LHC" Describes 
JB>> the "likely" size of such black holes and assures that they are not
liable to reach a "critical mass"
JB>> of 100Kg - at which point presumably everything in the area would be 
JB>> sucked into said black hole swiftly followed by the rest of the 
JB>> solar system.....they did not probe that scenario...

JB>> Here are the links:

JB>> http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0901/0901.2948v2.pdf

JB>> and...

JB>> http://arxiv.org/abs/0901.2948


JB>> No I am not joking this is a real paper on a real site - and I for 
JB>> one just hope that their assumptions and math about particles they 
JB>> have never seen are correct.

JB>> So much for the "precautionary principal"!

JB>> John Burke






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