[THIN] Re: Reboot Schedule
- From: "Joe Shonk" <joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 07:49:52 -0700
Well, it's difficult patch servers that are required to be up 24/7. It
would be nice if people would only have medical problems during regular
business hours.
Also, Vendors have a habit of using these exploits to make their application
work... (ahem, Lawson for one) It happens all TOO frequently that a new
Security Hotfix breaks an application. Some orgs have over 700 applications
so how do you test? Some applications require FDA approval, other vender
certification (if you want support). It's not as simple as plug and pray.
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Nicolai Imset
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 5:11 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Reboot Schedule
A stated in previous posts we have a huge amount of users (approx
40'000) not simultanously (however that is spelt) online. but
amongothers we run all the schools in Oslo. We still patch as often as
patches are available. Thenagain we also get patches already approved.
So we don't have the issue of testing them.
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:55:11 -0000, BRUTON, Malcolm, FM
<malcolm.bruton@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Yes but when you have several hundred servers that you patch and suddenly
> they don't work it causes far fewer problems to patch slowly and make sure
> you test as much as you can before you patch.
>
> I'm not so keen to tell 3000 users that they can't do anything today as we
> are removing a security hotfix and they can't work until we are finished.
>
> Hopefully you should have other security systems in place to prevent some
of
> these critical updates being a problem until you can fully test and
release.
>
> I believe that if you start rushing our every new patch a manufacturer
> releases it will end in tears unless you conduct proper testing.
>
> Malcolm
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
> Of Nicolai Imset
> Sent: 17 November 2004 06:44
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Reboot Schedule
>
> I'm reading this and sit here amazed/stunned (in lack of better words)
> to see many of you boot servers once a month due to new patches.
>
> I do hope you install critical ones outside this schedule.
>
> The period between a vulnerability is discovered and the actual
> exploit of it is now Really short :-/ Can't remember the exact time,
> but i think the record is 16 hours. (set now recently, from the top of
> my head, correct me if I'm wrong)
>
> --
> Nicolai Imset
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