Yes but when you have several hundred servers that you patch and suddenly they don't work it causes far fewer problems to patch slowly and make sure you test as much as you can before you patch. I'm not so keen to tell 3000 users that they can't do anything today as we are removing a security hotfix and they can't work until we are finished. Hopefully you should have other security systems in place to prevent some of these critical updates being a problem until you can fully test and release. I believe that if you start rushing our every new patch a manufacturer releases it will end in tears unless you conduct proper testing. Malcolm -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nicolai Imset Sent: 17 November 2004 06:44 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Reboot Schedule I'm reading this and sit here amazed/stunned (in lack of better words) to see many of you boot servers once a month due to new patches. I do hope you install critical ones outside this schedule. The period between a vulnerability is discovered and the actual exploit of it is now Really short :-/ Can't remember the exact time, but i think the record is 16 hours. (set now recently, from the top of my head, correct me if I'm wrong) -- Nicolai Imset CCA NT Consultant ------- "Then follow! But! Follow only if ye be men of valor, for the entrance to this cave is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel that no man yet has fought with it and lived! Bones of four fifty men lie strewn about its lair. So, brave knights, if you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for death awaits you all with nasty big pointy teeth." ******************************************************** This Weeks Sponsor Emergent Online ThinCity Conference Join us at ThinCity 2004: The 1st Annual Emergent OnLine Technology Conference http://www.ThinCity.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm *********************************************************************************** The Royal Bank of Scotland plc. Registered in Scotland No 90312. Registered Office: 36 St Andrew Square, Edinburgh EH2 2YB. Authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority This e-mail message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If the message is received by anyone other than the addressee, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer. Internet e-mails are not necessarily secure. The Royal Bank of Scotland plc does not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. Whilst all reasonable care has been taken to avoid the transmission of viruses, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that the onward transmission, opening or use of this message and any attachments will not adversely affect its systems or data. No responsibility is accepted by The Royal Bank of Scotland plc in this regard and the recipient should carry out such virus and other checks as it considers appropriate. Visit our websites at: http://www.rbs.co.uk/CBFM http://www.rbsmarkets.com ******************************************************************************** ******************************************************** This Weeks Sponsor Emergent Online ThinCity Conference Join us at ThinCity 2004: The 1st Annual Emergent OnLine Technology Conference http://www.ThinCity.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm