[THIN] Re: RDP Vs. ICA Client

  • From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "Newman, Phil" <Phil.Newman@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 07:32:39 -0500

10K. Well that's pretty good. And if it works you that is what matters
right? Generally we have found ICA fatter than that (better than RDP)
but with bandwidth costs being inexpensive (relatively) some of our
smaller clients have opted for the TS only route.

 

10 K, wow.

 

Ron Oglesby

Senior Technical Architect

Microsoft MVP, Windows Server 

 

RapidApp, Chicago

Office 312.372.7188

Mobile 815.325.7618

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-----Original Message-----
From: Newman, Phil [mailto:Phil.Newman@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 2:13 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Ron Oglesby
Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: RDP Vs. ICA Client

 

In the tests we ran - the figures can out at an average of 10k per
connection for ICA, and 23k for RDP.

 

In relation to rollout we are doing it makes staying with Citrix the
best way forward, as I am looking at a large number of small offices,
all using limited bandwidth DSL links.

 

And to support RDP, the investment in WAN costs exceeded the Citrix
licensing cost.

 

Let me know what you think.

 

regards,

 

Phil

 

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Ron Oglesby
Sent: 31 August 2004 13:37
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: RDP Vs. ICA Client

Your kidding right? What metrics are you using to compare the two
protocols, and what is the pay pack?

 

Ron

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Newman, Phil
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 1:58 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: RDP Vs. ICA Client

 

The main driver I have seen for Citrix recently is the bandwidth issue,
in implementing a new farm - we found that the bandwidth required for
Terminal server, and hence the increase in Network cost - exceeds the
cost of the Citrix licenses... 

-----Original Message----- 
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Nick Smith 
Sent: 26 August 2004 15:15 
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [THIN] Re: RDP Vs. ICA Client 

Hmmm...upgrade 5 users to Citrix on Win2k = c. $2000(I think). Upgrade 
5 usrs from win2k to w2k3 = c. $750. 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Tom Howarth [mailto:tom.howarth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: 26 August 2004 14:54 
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [THIN] Re: RDP Vs. ICA Client 

True, but in a environment where they do not have any terminal services,
it is very difficult to see a compelling argument for Ctx

-----Original Message----- 
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Bill Beckett 
Sent: 26 August 2004 14:39 
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' 
Subject: [THIN] Re: RDP Vs. ICA Client 

Well the cost of 2003 is upgrading to 2003 if you're not there yet. 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Tom Howarth [mailto:tom.howarth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 9:39 AM 
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [THIN] Re: RDP Vs. ICA Client 

 

Cost, no Citrix tax. With windows 2003 there is little or no advantage
in using ica locally. 

A native windows 2003 with a WTS gateway will provide almost the same
experience as a Citrix XPa environment with none of the added expense

-----Original Message----- 
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jason Miller 
Sent: 26 August 2004 14:26 
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' 
Subject: [THIN] RDP Vs. ICA Client 

I'm just curious about something within this group.  

I've noticed more people than I expcected using RDP to connect their
users to their Metaframe servers.  I've always been a big ICA client
person myself.  I'm just curious to see what benefits some folks see w/
the RDP client over the ICA client, or is it just preference?

Thanks. 

Jay 
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