[TechAssist] Re: troubleshooting HDMI input problems with no HDMI equipped sig-gens?
- From: "tvservice" <tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 14:50:23 -0500
May just be a matter of selecting which output to use in setup menu of the
equipment.
See that regularly on DVD players mostly come setup for composite output and
need change to Component or so.
Robert
tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
H & H Electronics Inc
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From: "Phil Bader" <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:02 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: troubleshooting HDMI input problems with no HDMI
equipped sig-gens?
> Well for example the tech I know is going out on a service call to find
> out why this set doesn't work on HDMI. Maybe the customer isn't doing
> something right. Maybe it's a defective cable box, accessory (DVD,sat
> box,etc) or a bad cable. Could be a interface module in the set. He
> really doesn't need to perform alignments with patterns thru this port,
> but must find out if the set recieves a signal thru it from a known good
> source, and trace back from that. A stupid little thing like our
> expensive generators lacking this port causes problems. I think that
> $200.00 LG DVD player with a simple test disc in it would fill the
> bill.I wonder if this LG also has a DVI for the sets with this option.
> Your suggestion holds merit in these cases. use it straight DVI with the
> DVI equipped sets, and the HDMI cable with those so equiped.probably
> either the HDMI would work, or not regardless of audio.This would as you
> say cover both cases.
> or i could just go be a Walmart greeter, my real wish. Screw this
pressure.
> Waa-Waa customers just have to have cutting edge or they just die.
> ;-)
> Phil
>
> Philip Bader
> Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976)
> 3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880
> Fax (863) 299-8821
> email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
> Jim Myers wrote:
>
> >Good point, guess we just have to have it all.
> >
> >
> >********************************
> >Since 1972 *
> >Jim Myers *
> >Telrad Electronics *
> >Fort Wayne Indiana *
> >********************************
> >
> >
> >Phil Bader wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Well, as I understand the HDMI includes audio as well. (HD Multimedia
> >>Interface),DVI does not,has video only, so a complete HDMI port test
> >>would not be possible with the DVI-HDMI adaptor, and I've heard some
> >>people say they had problems with those conversion cables...
> >>Phil
> >>
> >>Philip Bader
> >>Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976)
> >>3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880
> >>Fax (863) 299-8821
> >>email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Jim Myers wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Looks good but I think one with a DVI output would be better, DVI to
> >>>HDMI cable is available but is HDMI to DVI?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>********************************
> >>>Since 1972 *
> >>>Jim Myers *
> >>>Telrad Electronics *
> >>>Fort Wayne Indiana *
> >>>********************************
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Phil Bader wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Check this out: $199.00! HDMI outputs and takes a media card,too.
>
>>>>http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/LG-HD-DVD-Player-LGDVB418-/sem/rpsm/oid/1
09000/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
> >>>>
> >>>> LG HD DVD Player (LGDVB418)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>LG LGDVB418
> >>>>. HD DVD player
> >>>>. A/V versatility
> >>>>. 7-in-2 memory card slot
> >>>>
> >>>>. Multi-format playback
> >>>>. MP3 playback
> >>>>. Slim design
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Philip Bader
> >>>>Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976)
> >>>>3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880
> >>>>Fax (863) 299-8821
> >>>>email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Jim Myers wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Search GOOGLE for HDMI and DVD to see what is available, I bought a
LG
> >>>>>model LST-3510A combination DVD and HDTV receiver for just under
400.00.
> >>>>>It has DVI, component, composite and RF outputs, the DVI and
component
> >>>>>outputs have selectable 480,520,720 and 1080i. It upconverts DVD to
and
> >>>>>HD resolution you want and receives all the local off air HD
channels.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>********************************
> >>>>>Since 1972 *
> >>>>>Jim Myers *
> >>>>>Telrad Electronics *
> >>>>>Fort Wayne Indiana *
> >>>>>********************************
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Phil Bader wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>$650.00 not bad... I think I saw this in MCM under their name for
the
> >>>>>>same price. I guess CMM (Computer Monitor Maintanence) version for
> >>>>>>$500.00 only has the component outs.
> >>>>>>Maybe since we only need to verify that the darn HDMI port in the tv
> >>>>>>works, there will be a cheaper DVD deck out there we can plug in.
Too
> >>>>>>bad someone doesn't come out with a palm sized box that outputs a
simple
> >>>>>>test color bar patern and a 1K Hz audio tone with a HDMI output
port.
> >>>>>>That would be a good tester.
> >>>>>>Phil Bader
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Philip Bader
> >>>>>>Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976)
> >>>>>>3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880
> >>>>>>Fax (863) 299-8821
> >>>>>>email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Jim Myers wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>You didn't look at the link Phil, it is a generator that has what
you
> >>>>>>>don't have.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>********************************
> >>>>>>>Since 1972 *
> >>>>>>>Jim Myers *
> >>>>>>>Telrad Electronics *
> >>>>>>>Fort Wayne Indiana *
> >>>>>>>********************************
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Phil Bader wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>That's not possible, since our sencores are only equipped with RF,
> >>>>>>>>conposite, VESA, and component video outputs.
> >>>>>>>>I don't think theres an adaptor to go from HD component jacks to
HDMI.
> >>>>>>>>And there's the audio component to consider.
> >>>>>>>>Phil Bader
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Philip Bader
> >>>>>>>>Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976)
> >>>>>>>>3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880
> >>>>>>>>Fax (863) 299-8821
> >>>>>>>>email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Jim Myers wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>http://www.hallresearch.com/products/vga_processor/DVC-3.htm
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Just add a DVI to HDMI adapter cable.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Then you have ALL possible input types covered, until next years
models
> >>>>>>>>>come out that is!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>********************************
> >>>>>>>>>Since 1972 *
> >>>>>>>>>Jim Myers *
> >>>>>>>>>Telrad Electronics *
> >>>>>>>>>Fort Wayne Indiana *
> >>>>>>>>>********************************
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Phil Bader wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>A local shop I know is going out to a call on a new PTV,
customer says
> >>>>>>>>>>the HDMI inputs don't work.
> >>>>>>>>>>We both have the Sencore sig gens, his is the VP300, mine the
VP301
> >>>>>>>>>>(mine has a cable/RF connector added) Our gens output with the
> >>>>>>>>>>composite, and component video outputs and have no HDMI.
> >>>>>>>>>>Really, there seems no real need for the HDMI outputs to align,
since we
> >>>>>>>>>>can get the HD signal into the TV VIA the other available
> >>>>>>>>>>output(component video). But I guess we at least need to
basically
> >>>>>>>>>>verify if the HDMIs works. Suggestions? carry a small "HDMI"
equipped
> >>>>>>>>>>DVD player? Is there a small basic sig gen with HDMI for a
decent price?
> >>>>>>>>>>Adaptors?
> >>>>>>>>>>Phil Bader
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