[TechAssist] Re: charges for capacitors installed in a set
- From: Gary McCartney <gary@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 00:40:51 -0400
I just write on the invoice, 50 caps at $1.00 ea or whatever. I don't
get into the uF or voltage rating of each cap. How do you guys handle
your inventory count if you mark down "MOD KIT" or something else?
Gary McCartney
McCartney Electronics
Guelph Ontario Canada
Est. 1984
email: gary (at) number63.ca
Jay wrote:
> If I have to itemize the parts list on the invoice then I have no choice
> but to raise the labor charges. Most want the repair done as cheap as
> possible, and that means to me with the least effort possible. (-;
> Jay Knoll
> Jay's TV Service
> www.circuitwork.com
> Voice 304-624-6311
> Fax 208-246-5422
>
> J Silverman wrote:
>
>>Yeah. But it takes so long to write up the parts list.
>>Jerry Silverman
>>Greentron Inc
>>4 Newland Ave
>>Greenville SC 29609
>>Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
>>mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Gary McCartney" <gary@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 3:17 PM
>>Subject: [TechAssist] charges for capacitors installed in a set
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Ed, that is interesting. Let's say you replace 50 caps in a Mitsubishi.
>>>How much would you charge for the so- called MOD KIT? Just wanting to
>>>know if that would be a big advantage over just charging for 50 caps.
>>>I've been charging for the caps. Nobody has questioned it or anything. I
>>>charge a buck for the small ones, and go up mostly as the voltage rating
>>>increases to 3, 4 or higher bucks each.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Gary McCartney
>>>
>>>McCartney Electronics
>>>Guelph Ontario Canada
>>>Est. 1984
>>>email: gary (at) number63.ca
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Tel-Tek Electronics wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Same here Al...I never use the word "fuse" on my Invoice..that's all the
>>>>customer focuses on.
>>>>Some of my customers that are a little technically inclined, or
>>>>presume they are, I don't even use words like resistors or capacitors.
>>>>Like on the Mitsubishi's...if I change a bunch of Caps, I bill
>>>>it out as a MOD KIT, and charge accordingly.
>>>>
>>>>-Ed-
>>>>
>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics
>>>>Ontario-Canada
>>>>
>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>teltek@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Al L
>>>>Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 10:36 AM
>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fusible resistors
>>>>
>>>>Since fuses and fuse ohms cost very little i NEVER put them on my bills!
>>>>It
>>>>also stops that old crap'ALL it needed was a fuse!". al
>>>>
>>>>Al Leatherman
>>>>224 RT. 46
>>>>Mine Hill, NJ 07803
>>>>973-361-5796
>>>>WWW.ALS-TV.NET
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 5:34 AM
>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fusible resistors
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Bingo! Give that man a cigar! As "sue-happy" as a lot of Americans
>>>>
>>>>have
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>become, it is best to use the original part when it comes to something
>>>>>like this. When you turn on a tv and there is a lawyer saying "Has
>>>>>anyone looked at you cross-eyed in the last 3 months? We'll sue on a
>>>>>percentage basis", Ed is VERY correct in saying that a lawyer would
>>>>
>>>>drag
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>you through the coals on that.
>>>>>
>>>>>Doug Keller
>>>>>Wis-Kel Electronics
>>>>>101 Freeland Ave.
>>>>>Terra Alta, WV
>>>>>USA 26764
>>>>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org
>>>>>"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
>>>>>won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Edward Gaidies wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Jerry;
>>>>>>I agree 100%.
>>>>>>Cover yourself on "Safety Components"...
>>>>>>Not being cruel...it's nice to ask if you don't know..but using
>>>>>>improper fuses, or improper components will put your shieska on the
>>>>>>line.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Not so much in Canada, but with Lawsuits, some hotshot Investigator
>>>>>>will draw you through the coals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-Ed-
>>>>>>*****************************************************************
>>>>>>Ed Gaidies
>>>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics
>>>>>>Ontario-Canada
>>>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>teltek@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On 8-Oct-04, at 3:47 PM, J Silverman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>There is no relationship between fusible and flameproof. They have
>>>>>>>different
>>>>>>>applications. Fusible has been selected to protect some circuit from
>>>>>>>further
>>>>>>>damage. Flameproof is to prevent smoke and fire when damage occurs.
>>>>>>>Jerry Silverman
>>>>>>>Greentron Inc
>>>>>>>4 Newland Ave
>>>>>>>Greenville SC 29609
>>>>>>>Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
>>>>>>>mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "Paul" <dntwntv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 2:06 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fusible resistors
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thats interesting, because I am working on a Samsung that came in
>>>>>>>>with a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>vertical problem per the customer. Didn't show up in the shop till I
>>>>>>>tapped
>>>>>>>the board. I resoldred all the i/c pins and other relative
>>>>
>>>>components.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>Still
>>>>>>>no deflection. Hit the area with freeze and got partial deflection
>>>>>>>momentarily while a peaking coil smoked. I replaced the i/c the coil
>>>>
>>>>a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>shorted zener and a lytic cap. The 5.6 ohm fusible opened also which
>>>>
>>>>I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>didn't see till I fired it up again and had fold over. I replaced
>>>>
>>>>with
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>flame proof. It smoked and opened up immediately. Found another
>>>>>>>shorted
>>>>>>>zener. Thus the reason for the question. A fusible didn't seem to
>>>>
>>>>work
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>any
>>>>>>>better than a flame proof, at least in this case. Some suppliers use
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>term fusible to mean flame proof.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>>J Silverman <greentron@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>No. A flame proof resistor is made of materials that wont burn or
>>>>>>>>smoke
>>>>>>>>excessively. That doesnt mean that it wont light up like a light
>>>>
>>>>bulb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>while
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the circuit it is supposed to protect vaporizes and the resistor
>>>>>>>>survives.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>A
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>fusable resistor is supposed to protect something by interrupting
>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>current.
>>>>>>>>Jerry Silverman
>>>>>>>>Greentron Inc
>>>>>>>>4 Newland Ave
>>>>>>>>Greenville SC 29609
>>>>>>>>Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
>>>>>>>>mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>From: "Paul"
>>>>>>>>To:
>>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:57 PM
>>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Fusible resistors
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Is a flame proof resistor a safe sub for a fusible resistor of the
>>>>>>>>>same
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>value?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If not why not?
>>>>>>>>>Paul
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Paul ,B
>>>>>>>>>Central TV&Video
>>>>>>>>>911W Grand Ave
>>>>>>>>>Grover Beach Ca.
>>>>>>>>>(805)481-8084
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>Central TV&Video
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>>>>>>>>Grover Beach Ca.
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