[TechAssist] Re: charges for capacitors installed in a set
- From: "Hoyt's TV" <hoytstv@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:47:54 -0400
He must do a lot of Sony cameras.
Russ Hoyt
Hoyt's TV
Exeter, NH
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edward Gaidies" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 9:28 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: charges for capacitors installed in a set
> You change alot of caps...don't you?
>
> -Ed-
> *****************************************************************
> Ed Gaidies
> Tel-Tek Electronics
> Ontario-Canada
> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> teltek@xxxxxxxxx
>
> On 10-Oct-04, at 12:52 AM, Gary McCartney wrote:
>
> > I don't list 50 caps on the invoice, I just do it like this:
> >
> >
> > 37 caps @ 1.00 ea = $37.00
> >
> > 5 caps @ 2.00 ea = $10.00
> >
> > 3 caps @3.00 ea = $9.00
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Gary McCartney
> >
> > McCartney Electronics
> > Guelph Ontario Canada
> > Est. 1984
> > email: gary (at) number63.ca
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Edward Gaidies wrote:
> >> Well..time is money...Since I do my own Invoicing, sitting there
> >> listing 50 caps and prices makes me think my time can be better spent.
> >> I always include the old parts with the repair, although most
> >> customers
> >> don't want them. Not a concern about questioning caps, just time
> >> consuming.
> >>
> >>
> >> -Ed-
> >> *****************************************************************
> >> Ed Gaidies
> >> Tel-Tek Electronics
> >> Ontario-Canada
> >> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> teltek@xxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> On 9-Oct-04, at 3:17 PM, Gary McCartney wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Ed, that is interesting. Let's say you replace 50 caps in a
> >>> Mitsubishi.
> >>> How much would you charge for the so- called MOD KIT? Just wanting to
> >>> know if that would be a big advantage over just charging for 50 caps.
> >>> I've been charging for the caps. Nobody has questioned it or
> >>> anything.
> >>> I
> >>> charge a buck for the small ones, and go up mostly as the voltage
> >>> rating
> >>> increases to 3, 4 or higher bucks each.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Gary McCartney
> >>>
> >>> McCartney Electronics
> >>> Guelph Ontario Canada
> >>> Est. 1984
> >>> email: gary (at) number63.ca
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Tel-Tek Electronics wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Same here Al...I never use the word "fuse" on my Invoice..that's all
> >>>> the
> >>>> customer focuses on.
> >>>> Some of my customers that are a little technically inclined, or
> >>>> presume they are, I don't even use words like resistors or
> >>>> capacitors.
> >>>> Like on the Mitsubishi's...if I change a bunch of Caps, I bill
> >>>> it out as a MOD KIT, and charge accordingly.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Ed-
> >>>>
> >>>> Tel-Tek Electronics
> >>>> Ontario-Canada
> >>>>
> >>>> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> teltek@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Al L
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 10:36 AM
> >>>> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fusible resistors
> >>>>
> >>>> Since fuses and fuse ohms cost very little i NEVER put them on my
> >>>> bills!
> >>>> It
> >>>> also stops that old crap'ALL it needed was a fuse!". al
> >>>>
> >>>> Al Leatherman
> >>>> 224 RT. 46
> >>>> Mine Hill, NJ 07803
> >>>> 973-361-5796
> >>>> WWW.ALS-TV.NET
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 5:34 AM
> >>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fusible resistors
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Bingo! Give that man a cigar! As "sue-happy" as a lot of Americans
> >>>>
> >>>> have
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> become, it is best to use the original part when it comes to
> >>>>> something
> >>>>> like this. When you turn on a tv and there is a lawyer saying "Has
> >>>>> anyone looked at you cross-eyed in the last 3 months? We'll sue on
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> percentage basis", Ed is VERY correct in saying that a lawyer would
> >>>>
> >>>> drag
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> you through the coals on that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Doug Keller
> >>>>> Wis-Kel Electronics
> >>>>> 101 Freeland Ave.
> >>>>> Terra Alta, WV
> >>>>> USA 26764
> >>>>> dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>> dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>> http://www.tech-assist.org
> >>>>> "Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
> >>>>> won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Edward Gaidies wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Jerry;
> >>>>>> I agree 100%.
> >>>>>> Cover yourself on "Safety Components"...
> >>>>>> Not being cruel...it's nice to ask if you don't know..but using
> >>>>>> improper fuses, or improper components will put your shieska on
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> line.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Not so much in Canada, but with Lawsuits, some hotshot
> >>>>>> Investigator
> >>>>>> will draw you through the coals.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -Ed-
> >>>>>> *****************************************************************
> >>>>>> Ed Gaidies
> >>>>>> Tel-Tek Electronics
> >>>>>> Ontario-Canada
> >>>>>> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> teltek@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 8-Oct-04, at 3:47 PM, J Silverman wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There is no relationship between fusible and flameproof. They
> >>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>> different
> >>>>>>> applications. Fusible has been selected to protect some circuit
> >>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>> further
> >>>>>>> damage. Flameproof is to prevent smoke and fire when damage
> >>>>>>> occurs.
> >>>>>>> Jerry Silverman
> >>>>>>> Greentron Inc
> >>>>>>> 4 Newland Ave
> >>>>>>> Greenville SC 29609
> >>>>>>> Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
> >>>>>>> mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>> From: "Paul" <dntwntv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 2:06 PM
> >>>>>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fusible resistors
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thats interesting, because I am working on a Samsung that came
> >>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>> with a
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> vertical problem per the customer. Didn't show up in the shop
> >>>>>>> till
> >>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>> tapped
> >>>>>>> the board. I resoldred all the i/c pins and other relative
> >>>>
> >>>> components.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> Still
> >>>>>>> no deflection. Hit the area with freeze and got partial
> >>>>>>> deflection
> >>>>>>> momentarily while a peaking coil smoked. I replaced the i/c the
> >>>>>>> coil
> >>>>
> >>>> a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> shorted zener and a lytic cap. The 5.6 ohm fusible opened also
> >>>>>>> which
> >>>>
> >>>> I
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> didn't see till I fired it up again and had fold over. I replaced
> >>>>
> >>>> with
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>> flame proof. It smoked and opened up immediately. Found another
> >>>>>>> shorted
> >>>>>>> zener. Thus the reason for the question. A fusible didn't seem to
> >>>>
> >>>> work
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> any
> >>>>>>> better than a flame proof, at least in this case. Some suppliers
> >>>>>>> use
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> term fusible to mean flame proof.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Paul
> >>>>>>>> J Silverman <greentron@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> No. A flame proof resistor is made of materials that wont burn
> >>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>> smoke
> >>>>>>>> excessively. That doesnt mean that it wont light up like a light
> >>>>
> >>>> bulb
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> while
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> the circuit it is supposed to protect vaporizes and the resistor
> >>>>>>>> survives.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> A
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> fusable resistor is supposed to protect something by
> >>>>>>>> interrupting
> >>>>
> >>>> the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> current.
> >>>>>>>> Jerry Silverman
> >>>>>>>> Greentron Inc
> >>>>>>>> 4 Newland Ave
> >>>>>>>> Greenville SC 29609
> >>>>>>>> Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
> >>>>>>>> mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>> From: "Paul"
> >>>>>>>> To:
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:57 PM
> >>>>>>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Fusible resistors
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Is a flame proof resistor a safe sub for a fusible resistor of
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> same
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> value?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If not why not?
> >>>>>>>>> Paul
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Paul ,B
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