[TechAssist] Re: charges for capacitors installed in a set
- From: larry <schntv@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 20:27:30 -0400
in ohio , we are required by law to list the parts we charge
for, but i think a kit would be ok.
Larry
Edward Gaidies wrote:
> Well..time is money...Since I do my own Invoicing, sitting there
> listing 50 caps and prices makes me think my time can be better spent.
> I always include the old parts with the repair, although most customers
> don't want them. Not a concern about questioning caps, just time
> consuming.
>
>
> -Ed-
> *****************************************************************
> Ed Gaidies
> Tel-Tek Electronics
> Ontario-Canada
> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> teltek@xxxxxxxxx
>
> On 9-Oct-04, at 3:17 PM, Gary McCartney wrote:
>
>
>>Ed, that is interesting. Let's say you replace 50 caps in a Mitsubishi.
>>How much would you charge for the so- called MOD KIT? Just wanting to
>>know if that would be a big advantage over just charging for 50 caps.
>>I've been charging for the caps. Nobody has questioned it or anything.
>>I
>>charge a buck for the small ones, and go up mostly as the voltage
>>rating
>>increases to 3, 4 or higher bucks each.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Gary McCartney
>>
>>McCartney Electronics
>>Guelph Ontario Canada
>>Est. 1984
>>email: gary (at) number63.ca
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Tel-Tek Electronics wrote:
>>
>>>Same here Al...I never use the word "fuse" on my Invoice..that's all
>>>the
>>>customer focuses on.
>>> Some of my customers that are a little technically inclined, or
>>>presume they are, I don't even use words like resistors or capacitors.
>>> Like on the Mitsubishi's...if I change a bunch of Caps, I bill
>>>it out as a MOD KIT, and charge accordingly.
>>>
>>>-Ed-
>>>
>>>Tel-Tek Electronics
>>>Ontario-Canada
>>>
>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>teltek@xxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Al L
>>>Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 10:36 AM
>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fusible resistors
>>>
>>>Since fuses and fuse ohms cost very little i NEVER put them on my
>>>bills!
>>>It
>>>also stops that old crap'ALL it needed was a fuse!". al
>>>
>>>Al Leatherman
>>>224 RT. 46
>>>Mine Hill, NJ 07803
>>>973-361-5796
>>>WWW.ALS-TV.NET
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 5:34 AM
>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fusible resistors
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Bingo! Give that man a cigar! As "sue-happy" as a lot of Americans
>>>
>>>have
>>>
>>>
>>>>become, it is best to use the original part when it comes to
>>>>something
>>>>like this. When you turn on a tv and there is a lawyer saying "Has
>>>>anyone looked at you cross-eyed in the last 3 months? We'll sue on a
>>>>percentage basis", Ed is VERY correct in saying that a lawyer would
>>>
>>>drag
>>>
>>>
>>>>you through the coals on that.
>>>>
>>>>Doug Keller
>>>>Wis-Kel Electronics
>>>>101 Freeland Ave.
>>>>Terra Alta, WV
>>>>USA 26764
>>>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org
>>>>"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
>>>>won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Edward Gaidies wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Jerry;
>>>>>I agree 100%.
>>>>>Cover yourself on "Safety Components"...
>>>>>Not being cruel...it's nice to ask if you don't know..but using
>>>>>improper fuses, or improper components will put your shieska on the
>>>>>line.
>>>>>
>>>>>Not so much in Canada, but with Lawsuits, some hotshot Investigator
>>>>>will draw you through the coals.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-Ed-
>>>>>*****************************************************************
>>>>>Ed Gaidies
>>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics
>>>>>Ontario-Canada
>>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>teltek@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>On 8-Oct-04, at 3:47 PM, J Silverman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>There is no relationship between fusible and flameproof. They have
>>>>>>different
>>>>>>applications. Fusible has been selected to protect some circuit
>>>>>>from
>>>>>>further
>>>>>>damage. Flameproof is to prevent smoke and fire when damage occurs.
>>>>>>Jerry Silverman
>>>>>>Greentron Inc
>>>>>>4 Newland Ave
>>>>>>Greenville SC 29609
>>>>>>Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
>>>>>>mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Paul" <dntwntv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 2:06 PM
>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fusible resistors
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thats interesting, because I am working on a Samsung that came in
>>>>>>>with a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>vertical problem per the customer. Didn't show up in the shop till
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>tapped
>>>>>>the board. I resoldred all the i/c pins and other relative
>>>
>>>components.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Still
>>>>>>no deflection. Hit the area with freeze and got partial deflection
>>>>>>momentarily while a peaking coil smoked. I replaced the i/c the
>>>>>>coil
>>>
>>>a
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>shorted zener and a lytic cap. The 5.6 ohm fusible opened also
>>>>>>which
>>>
>>>I
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>didn't see till I fired it up again and had fold over. I replaced
>>>
>>>with
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>flame proof. It smoked and opened up immediately. Found another
>>>>>>shorted
>>>>>>zener. Thus the reason for the question. A fusible didn't seem to
>>>
>>>work
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>any
>>>>>>better than a flame proof, at least in this case. Some suppliers
>>>>>>use
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>term fusible to mean flame proof.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>J Silverman <greentron@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>No. A flame proof resistor is made of materials that wont burn or
>>>>>>>smoke
>>>>>>>excessively. That doesnt mean that it wont light up like a light
>>>
>>>bulb
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>while
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the circuit it is supposed to protect vaporizes and the resistor
>>>>>>>survives.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>A
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>fusable resistor is supposed to protect something by interrupting
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>current.
>>>>>>>Jerry Silverman
>>>>>>>Greentron Inc
>>>>>>>4 Newland Ave
>>>>>>>Greenville SC 29609
>>>>>>>Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
>>>>>>>mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "Paul"
>>>>>>>To:
>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:57 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Fusible resistors
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is a flame proof resistor a safe sub for a fusible resistor of
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>same
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>value?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If not why not?
>>>>>>>>Paul
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Paul ,B
>>>>>>>>Central TV&Video
>>>>>>>>911W Grand Ave
>>>>>>>>Grover Beach Ca.
>>>>>>>>(805)481-8084
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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