Ok I will vote yes....wait I mean no...I mean ahhh darn that Kerry.... Shaun Advanced Electronics Fort Morgan, CO 80701 satguy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry" <schntv@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 6:29 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Heat sink compound > i vote, the portion of the transistor touching the heat sink > will be hotter than the sink. > Larry > > > Hoyt's TV wrote: > > > OK, I'll vote Yes. > > > > > > Russ Hoyt > > Hoyt's TV > > Exeter, NH > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 4:10 PM > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Heat sink compound > > > > > > > >>Obviously the answer is that we have to forget about science and just take > > > > a > > > >>vote and that will settle the question. Governments do that all the time > > > > and > > > >>it works for them, doesnt it? After all, California passed a law that 80% > > > > of > > > >>the cars sold had to be totally none-polluting and that no more power > > > > plants > > > >>were to be constructed and this hasnt caused any problems for them, has > > > > it? > > > >>Now I think they are working on a law to eliminate earthquakes. Its about > >>time! > >>Jerry Silverman > >>Greentron Inc > >>4 Newland Ave > >>Greenville SC 29609 > >>Fax/Phone 864 232 3889 > >>mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "walter wood" <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx> > >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:34 PM > >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Heat sink compound > >> > >> > >> > >>>Sorry, but I have to say that I find the heat sinks > >>>hotter than the device quite often. > >>>I also have a laser thermometer, and have compiled > >>>some readings for reference. > >>>By the way, It seems that the only thing the laser > >>>does is help you aim it. > >>>When mine is turned on, it will read whether the > >>>trigger(turns on the laser) is squeezed or not. > >>>One can find quite a range of temps inside a TV, > >>>but, I DO believe that a properly working heat sink > >>>will be hotter than the device fastened to it. > >>>At least, behind, and above the device. > >>>For what it's worth!! > >>>Walter > >>>--- gulftech@xxxxxxxx wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Come on Bill, > >>>> > >>>>I respect you and very much enjoy your posts. > >>>>But, it is impossible for > >>>>a heat sink to be hotter than the transistor > >>>>attached to it. I have a > >>>>laser thermometer that I use. NEVER have I seen > >>>>the heat sink to be > >>>>hotter than the transistor. After all, where > >>>>does the heat come from? > >>>> > >>>>Plastic transistors are hardest to test, but the > >>>>highest temperature > >>>>measured would be equal to or lower than the > >>>>actual temp. of the > >>>>semiconductor. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Ken Smith > >>>>Gulf Technical Services > >>>>3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway > >>>>Gulf Breeze, FL 32563 > >>>>850-934-8324 (Voice), 850-932-0819 (fax) > >>>> > >>>>On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:00:41 -0700 Bil Green > >>>><tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>writes: > >>>> > >>>>>Actually I'm right. When you place your finger > >>>> > >>>>against the plastic > >>>> > >>>>>section of a transistor or IC which is on a > >>>> > >>>>heat sink the > >>>> > >>>>>temperature usually feels cooler the heat sink. > >>>>> > >>>>>You can't place your finger on the rear (often > >>>> > >>>>metal) side which is > >>>> > >>>>>against the heat sink (and may be much hotter). > >>>>> > >>>>>But the heat sink is often hot enough to burn > >>>> > >>>>your finger (and > >>>> > >>>>>often the device is definitely NOT). Now maybe > >>>> > >>>>the plastic just > >>>> > >>>>>doesn't transfer the heat to your finger very > >>>> > >>>>well. I'm don't care > >>>> > >>>>>about science at this point, only what I see or > >>>> > >>>>feel. > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>Bil Green > >>>>>PC 1000 > >>>>>Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 > >>>>>760-924-1000 > >>>>> > >>>>>Friday, October 8, 2004, 1:22:50 PM, you wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>TTE> Bil... > >>>>>TTE> Now you know better then that. > >>>>>TTE> Basic Science.;-) > >>>>>TTE> That would be Thermal Energy in reverse. > >>>> > >>>>The source has to be > >>>> > >>>>>more then > >>>>>TTE> the dissipation. > >>>>> > >>>>>TTE> Ask Wayne.;-) > >>>>> > >>>>>TTE> -Ed- > >>>>> > >>>>>TTE> Tel-Tek Electronics > >>>>>TTE> Ontario-Canada > >>>>> > >>>>>TTE> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>TTE> teltek@xxxxxxxxx > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>TTE> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>TTE> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>TTE> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > >>>> > >>>>On Behalf Of Bil Green > >>>> > >>>>>TTE> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 3:57 PM > >>>>>TTE> To: J Silverman > >>>>>TTE> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Heat sink > >>>> > >>>>compound > >>>> > >>>>>TTE> Isn't the heat sink always hotter than the > >>>> > >>>>device? Heat rises > >>>> > >>>>>and is > >>>>>TTE> stored by the heat sink. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>TTE> Bil Green > >>>>>TTE> PC 1000 > >>>>>TTE> Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 > >>>>>TTE> 760-924-1000 > >>>>> > >>>>>TTE> Friday, October 8, 2004, 9:50:46 AM, you > >>>> > >>>>wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>JS>> So it sucks so much heat out that the heat > >>>> > >>>>sink is hotter than > >>>> > >>>>>the > >>>>>TTE> devices > >>>>>JS>> doing the heating? Patent it quick! > >>>>>JS>> Jerry Silverman > >>>>>JS>> Greentron Inc > >>>>>JS>> 4 Newland Ave > >>>>>JS>> Greenville SC 29609 > >>>>>JS>> Fax/Phone 864 232 3889 > >>>>>JS>> mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx > >>>>>JS>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>JS>> From: "Bil Green" > >>>> > >>>><tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>> > >>>>>JS>> To: "Paul" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>JS>> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 4:46 PM > >>>>>JS>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Heat sink > >>>> > >>>>compound > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>I have been using silicone grease. It's > >>>> > >>>>available in a tube, > >>>> > >>>>>used for > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>servicing pools and hot tubs, also boats. > >>>> > >>>>Designed for high heat > >>>> > >>>>>>>>applications. Has worked well for many > >>>> > >>>>years (and it's clear). > >>>> > >>>>>>>>The heat sinks get much hotter than the > >>>> > >>>>transistors and chips so > >>>> > >>>>>I > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>know for sure that it's working. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Bil Green > >>>>>>>>PC 1000 > >>>>>>>>Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 > >>>>>>>>760-924-1000 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Thursday, October 7, 2004, 10:10:38 AM, you > >>>> > >>>>wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>>>>P> Hi Al, been using GC silicone 10-8101 > >>>> > >>>>for about 20 years. > >>>> > >>>>>Never > >>>>>TTE> had a > >>>>>JS>> repeat failure due to its use. 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