Same here Al...I never use the word "fuse" on my Invoice..that's all the customer focuses on. Some of my customers that are a little technically inclined, or presume they are, I don't even use words like resistors or capacitors. Like on the Mitsubishi's...if I change a bunch of Caps, I bill it out as a MOD KIT, and charge accordingly. -Ed- Tel-Tek Electronics Ontario-Canada teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx teltek@xxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Al L Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 10:36 AM To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fusible resistors Since fuses and fuse ohms cost very little i NEVER put them on my bills! It also stops that old crap'ALL it needed was a fuse!". al Al Leatherman 224 RT. 46 Mine Hill, NJ 07803 973-361-5796 WWW.ALS-TV.NET ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 5:34 AM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fusible resistors > Bingo! Give that man a cigar! As "sue-happy" as a lot of Americans have > become, it is best to use the original part when it comes to something > like this. When you turn on a tv and there is a lawyer saying "Has > anyone looked at you cross-eyed in the last 3 months? We'll sue on a > percentage basis", Ed is VERY correct in saying that a lawyer would drag > you through the coals on that. > > Doug Keller > Wis-Kel Electronics > 101 Freeland Ave. > Terra Alta, WV > USA 26764 > dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.tech-assist.org > "Learn from the mistakes of others, because you > won't live long enough to make them all yourself" > > > > > > Edward Gaidies wrote: > > >Jerry; > >I agree 100%. > >Cover yourself on "Safety Components"... > >Not being cruel...it's nice to ask if you don't know..but using > >improper fuses, or improper components will put your shieska on the > >line. > > > > Not so much in Canada, but with Lawsuits, some hotshot Investigator > >will draw you through the coals. > > > > > >-Ed- > >***************************************************************** > >Ed Gaidies > >Tel-Tek Electronics > >Ontario-Canada > >teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > >teltek@xxxxxxxxx > > > >On 8-Oct-04, at 3:47 PM, J Silverman wrote: > > > > > > > >>There is no relationship between fusible and flameproof. They have > >>different > >>applications. Fusible has been selected to protect some circuit from > >>further > >>damage. Flameproof is to prevent smoke and fire when damage occurs. > >>Jerry Silverman > >>Greentron Inc > >>4 Newland Ave > >>Greenville SC 29609 > >>Fax/Phone 864 232 3889 > >>mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Paul" <dntwntv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 2:06 PM > >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fusible resistors > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>Thats interesting, because I am working on a Samsung that came in > >>>with a > >>> > >>> > >>vertical problem per the customer. Didn't show up in the shop till I > >>tapped > >>the board. I resoldred all the i/c pins and other relative components. > >>Still > >>no deflection. Hit the area with freeze and got partial deflection > >>momentarily while a peaking coil smoked. I replaced the i/c the coil a > >>shorted zener and a lytic cap. The 5.6 ohm fusible opened also which I > >>didn't see till I fired it up again and had fold over. I replaced with > >>a > >>flame proof. It smoked and opened up immediately. Found another > >>shorted > >>zener. Thus the reason for the question. A fusible didn't seem to work > >>any > >>better than a flame proof, at least in this case. Some suppliers use > >>the > >>term fusible to mean flame proof. > >> > >> > >>> Paul > >>>J Silverman <greentron@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>No. A flame proof resistor is made of materials that wont burn or > >>>smoke > >>>excessively. That doesnt mean that it wont light up like a light bulb > >>> > >>> > >>while > >> > >> > >>>the circuit it is supposed to protect vaporizes and the resistor > >>>survives. > >>> > >>> > >>A > >> > >> > >>>fusable resistor is supposed to protect something by interrupting the > >>>current. > >>>Jerry Silverman > >>>Greentron Inc > >>>4 Newland Ave > >>>Greenville SC 29609 > >>>Fax/Phone 864 232 3889 > >>>mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Paul" > >>>To: > >>>Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:57 PM > >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Fusible resistors > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Is a flame proof resistor a safe sub for a fusible resistor of the > >>>>same > >>>> > >>>> > >>>value? > >>> > >>> > >>>>If not why not? > >>>>Paul > >>>> > >>>>Paul ,B > >>>>Central TV&Video > >>>>911W Grand Ave > >>>>Grover Beach Ca. > >>>>(805)481-8084 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- - > >>>---- > >>>--- > >>> > >>> > >>>>Lost Password: > >>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > >>>>Email Archives: > >>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- - > >>>---- > >>> > >>> > >>--- > >> > >> > >>>Lost Password: > >>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > >>>Email Archives: > >>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > >>> > >>> > >>>Paul ,B > >>>Central TV&Video > >>>911W Grand Ave > >>>Grover Beach Ca. > >>>(805)481-8084 > >>> > >>> > >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- - > >>>---- > >>> > >>> > >>--- > >> > >> > >>>Lost Password: > >>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > >>>Email Archives: > >>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > >>> > >>> > >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- - > >>------ > >>Lost Password: > >>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > >>Email Archives: > >>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- -- > >Lost Password: > >http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > >Email Archives: > >//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- --- > Lost Password: > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > Email Archives: > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". 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