[TechAssist] Re: charges for capacitors installed in a set

  • From: gulftech@xxxxxxxx
  • To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 14:49:37 -0500

Same here, except I place them in my parts log to order when low, not
out.  I order them at least 10 at a time.  I do list ALL parts used in my
computer file for the invoice, but don't list every part on the customer
invoice.  My invoices only have five lines to list parts.


Ken Smith
Gulf Technical Services
3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway
Gulf Breeze, FL  32563
850-934-8324 (Voice), 850-932-0819 (fax)

On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 09:27:43 -0400 Edward Gaidies <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
writes:
> Inventory Count????
> When I go to the drawer that holds my 10ufd/200V...and it's 
> empty...I  
> order more.;-)
> 
> 
> -Ed-
> *****************************************************************
> Ed Gaidies        
> Tel-Tek Electronics
> Ontario-Canada
> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> teltek@xxxxxxxxx        
> 
> On 10-Oct-04, at 12:40 AM, Gary McCartney wrote:
> 
> > I just write on the invoice, 50 caps at $1.00 ea or whatever. I 
> don't
> > get into the uF or voltage rating of each cap. How do you guys 
> handle
> > your inventory count if you mark down "MOD KIT" or something else?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Gary McCartney
> >
> > McCartney Electronics
> > Guelph Ontario Canada
> > Est. 1984
> > email: gary (at) number63.ca
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jay wrote:
> >> If I have to itemize the parts list on the invoice then I have no 
>  
> >> choice
> >> but to raise the labor charges. Most want the repair done as 
> cheap as
> >> possible, and that means to me with the least effort possible. 
> (-;
> >> Jay Knoll
> >> Jay's TV Service
> >> www.circuitwork.com
> >> Voice 304-624-6311
> >> Fax 208-246-5422
> >>
> >> J Silverman wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yeah. But it takes so long to write up the parts list.
> >>> Jerry Silverman
> >>> Greentron Inc
> >>> 4 Newland Ave
> >>> Greenville SC 29609
> >>> Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
> >>> mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Gary McCartney" <gary@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 3:17 PM
> >>> Subject: [TechAssist] charges for capacitors installed in a set
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Ed, that is interesting. Let's say you replace 50 caps in a  
> >>>> Mitsubishi.
> >>>> How much would you charge for the so- called MOD KIT? Just 
> wanting  
> >>>> to
> >>>> know if that would be a big advantage over just charging for 50 
>  
> >>>> caps.
> >>>> I've been charging for the caps. Nobody has questioned it or  
> >>>> anything. I
> >>>> charge a buck for the small ones, and go up mostly as the 
> voltage  
> >>>> rating
> >>>> increases to 3, 4 or higher bucks each.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Gary McCartney
> >>>>
> >>>> McCartney Electronics
> >>>> Guelph Ontario Canada
> >>>> Est. 1984
> >>>> email: gary (at) number63.ca
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Tel-Tek Electronics wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Same here Al...I never use the word "fuse" on my 
> Invoice..that's  
> >>>>> all the
> >>>>> customer focuses on.
> >>>>> Some of my customers that are a little technically inclined, 
> or
> >>>>> presume they are, I don't even use words like resistors or  
> >>>>> capacitors.
> >>>>> Like on the Mitsubishi's...if I change a bunch of Caps, I bill
> >>>>> it out as a MOD KIT, and charge accordingly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Ed-
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tel-Tek Electronics
> >>>>> Ontario-Canada
> >>>>>
> >>>>> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>> teltek@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Al L
> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 10:36 AM
> >>>>> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fusible resistors
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Since fuses and fuse ohms cost very little i NEVER put them on 
> my  
> >>>>> bills!
> >>>>> It
> >>>>> also stops that old crap'ALL it needed was a fuse!". al
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Al Leatherman
> >>>>> 224 RT. 46
> >>>>> Mine Hill, NJ 07803
> >>>>> 973-361-5796
> >>>>> WWW.ALS-TV.NET
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 5:34 AM
> >>>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fusible resistors
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Bingo! Give that man a cigar! As "sue-happy" as a lot of 
> Americans
> >>>>>
> >>>>> have
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> become, it is best to use the original part when it comes to  
> 
> >>>>>> something
> >>>>>> like this. When you turn on a tv and there is a lawyer saying 
> "Has
> >>>>>> anyone looked at you cross-eyed in the last 3 months? We'll 
> sue  
> >>>>>> on a
> >>>>>> percentage basis", Ed is VERY correct in saying that a lawyer 
>  
> >>>>>> would
> >>>>>
> >>>>> drag
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> you through the coals on that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Doug Keller
> >>>>>> Wis-Kel Electronics
> >>>>>> 101 Freeland Ave.
> >>>>>> Terra Alta, WV
> >>>>>> USA        26764
> >>>>>> dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> http://www.tech-assist.org
> >>>>>> "Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
> >>>>>> won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Edward Gaidies wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jerry;
> >>>>>>> I agree 100%.
> >>>>>>> Cover yourself on "Safety Components"...
> >>>>>>> Not being cruel...it's nice to ask if you don't know..but 
> using
> >>>>>>> improper fuses, or improper components will put your shieska 
> on  
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> line.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Not so much in Canada, but with Lawsuits, some hotshot  
> >>>>>>> Investigator
> >>>>>>> will draw you through the coals.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -Ed-
> >>>>>>> 
> *****************************************************************
> >>>>>>> Ed Gaidies
> >>>>>>> Tel-Tek Electronics
> >>>>>>> Ontario-Canada
> >>>>>>> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>> teltek@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 8-Oct-04, at 3:47 PM, J Silverman wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> There is no relationship between fusible and flameproof. 
> They  
> >>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>> different
> >>>>>>>> applications. Fusible has been selected to protect some 
> circuit  
> >>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>> further
> >>>>>>>> damage. Flameproof is to prevent smoke and fire when damage 
>  
> >>>>>>>> occurs.
> >>>>>>>> Jerry Silverman
> >>>>>>>> Greentron Inc
> >>>>>>>> 4 Newland Ave
> >>>>>>>> Greenville SC 29609
> >>>>>>>> Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
> >>>>>>>> mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>> From: "Paul" <dntwntv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 2:06 PM
> >>>>>>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fusible resistors
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thats interesting, because I am working on a Samsung that 
> came  
> >>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>> with a
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> vertical problem per the customer. Didn't show up in the 
> shop  
> >>>>>>>> till I
> >>>>>>>> tapped
> >>>>>>>> the board. I resoldred all the i/c pins and other relative
> >>>>>
> >>>>> components.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Still
> >>>>>>>> no deflection. Hit the area with freeze and got partial  
> >>>>>>>> deflection
> >>>>>>>> momentarily while a peaking coil smoked. I replaced the i/c 
> the  
> >>>>>>>> coil
> >>>>>
> >>>>> a
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> shorted zener and a lytic cap. The 5.6 ohm fusible opened 
> also  
> >>>>>>>> which
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> didn't see till I fired it up again and had fold over. I  
> >>>>>>>> replaced
> >>>>>
> >>>>> with
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>> flame proof. It smoked and opened up immediately.  Found 
> another
> >>>>>>>> shorted
> >>>>>>>> zener. Thus the reason for the question. A fusible didn't 
> seem  
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>
> >>>>> work
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> any
> >>>>>>>> better than a flame proof, at least in this case. Some  
> >>>>>>>> suppliers use
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> term fusible to mean flame proof.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                                                  Paul
> >>>>>>>>> J Silverman <greentron@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> No. A flame proof resistor is made of materials that wont 
> burn  
> >>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>> smoke
> >>>>>>>>> excessively. That doesnt mean that it wont light up like a 
>  
> >>>>>>>>> light
> >>>>>
> >>>>> bulb
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> while
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> the circuit it is supposed to protect vaporizes and the  
> >>>>>>>>> resistor
> >>>>>>>>> survives.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> A
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> fusable resistor is supposed to protect something by  
> >>>>>>>>> interrupting
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> current.
> >>>>>>>>> Jerry Silverman
> >>>>>>>>> Greentron Inc
> >>>>>>>>> 4 Newland Ave
> >>>>>>>>> Greenville SC 29609
> >>>>>>>>> Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
> >>>>>>>>> mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>>> From: "Paul"
> >>>>>>>>> To:
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:57 PM
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Fusible resistors
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Is a flame proof resistor a safe sub for a fusible 
> resistor  
> >>>>>>>>>> of the
> >>>>>>>>>> same
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> value?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> If not why not?
> >>>>>>>>>> Paul
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Paul ,B
> >>>>>>>>>> Central TV&Video
> >>>>>>>>>> 911W Grand Ave
> >>>>>>>>>> Grover Beach Ca.
> >>>>>>>>>> (805)481-8084
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