[TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.

From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:07:05 -0400
LeRoy,

You' re very correct about the inner circle.
I watched the careers of several past officials blossom after being elected.
It appears that they all used the prestige and access provided by national
office to their OWN advantage.
Meanwhile the rank and file is left with no real representation.

It would take 5-10 years of membership and convention-going to get well
known enough to win the NESDA popularity contest. Do we have that kind of
time?
One of the changes I suggested was to the election bylaws to include ALL the
members.
Presently, the only ones that get to vote are the guys who go to the
convention! There is a very definite bias.

In these days of "net meetings", e-mail, and web sites, why is NESDA stuck
in 1950?
I think the NESDA "insiders" like it that way. It's easier to maintain
control and fend off challengers, etc.

The NESDA magazine offers only a handful of authors-all old timers. No call
for other contributors either! Don't dare ask to contribute to committees or
the magazine if you want to remain a "member in good standing". BELIVE ME, I
KNOW THIS FIRST HAND!

After seeing these impediments, I couldn't exit the organization fast
enough.

Jim McVey
McVey Alltronix
327 Broadway
Newburgh Ny 12550
ph: 845 561 8383
fx: 845 561 9017
Consumer electronics &
computer service.
Factory authorized for
over twenty brands.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 1:54 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.


> Jim,
> Maybe you should have stayed with them, and offered your services to run
for
> President of that Organiztion.
> There have been a LOT of good people coming, and going from that
particular
> Organization, ( I could name a few,...but,..they know who they
> are ).....but,...NONE of them have had the guts, to get mixed up with them
> to the point of making major changes, and offering to take the bull by the
> horn.
>
> I would have stayed with them, after the ONE year of free
> membership,....but,...I could not keep up with the financial burden that
it
> placed on me. It's the same problem as you run into, if you were to run
for
> pesident of the U.S.,..the POOR guy has NO chance,...ONLY the most
> successful members have the time, and the finances to be involved with all
> there conventions, meetings, etc.,...and these are the people that always
> need the least amount of help.
>
> The top brass of Nesda are there for their own benifit, and social
> positions, and they only use the rest of us to help pay the dues, and the
> bills, that keep them in power. I'm not sure this is the best place
>  TechAssist ), to be discussing the operations of other peoples
> associations. Maybe we need to start our OWN Associasion, and not be so
> friendly towards the Manufacturers. How about it ? Anybody out there who
> wants to be in the top brass positions of a NEW organization ? You guys
help
> compose the messages that you want to get through to the
> manufacturers,....and I'll send them for you. Just provide the e-mail
> addresses for me. Let's get some of you ASC guys involved, and threaten
the
> manufacturers to stop doing warranty work for them, until they get in
line,
> and clean up there act.
>
> There are also, a lot of members on this list who have never been involved
> with Nesda, that MIGHT could help us form a NEW Association, that could
> better serve us remaining independents by approacing things from a
different
> direction, and with a MORE stern attitude.
> .
> Just a thought,
> LLW
>
> LeRoy Westlund
> Westlund TV & Electronics
> 97 North Main                                "Where there's a will,...
> Centerfield, UT 84622-0087           There's always a way."
> Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
> mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: becyn <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:35 PM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.
>
>
> >Doug,
> >I wouldn't stand one one foot waiting for the manufacturers to increase
> >quality and prices.
> >People want "cheap products". Why do you think Wal-mart is so successful?
> We
> >as businessmen have to accept this as our new environment to which we
must
> >adapt or perish.
> >
> >I always thought that NESDA could have done alot more for the service
> >industry by working on issues like;
> >Standardization of warranty proceedures and electronic entry formats.
> >
> >Standardization of manual distribution format.
> >
> >Product serviceability (such as all projos should have a rermoveable
light
> >box, etc).
> >
> >Work with the membership to develop a useful universal, comprehensive
> >call/claim management system for automating the industry.
> >
> >Lobby for better rates or better methods of repairing inexpensive items.
(
> >such as not requiring component level repair)
> >
> >Well, you get the idea...I could go on...
> >
> >Jim McVey
> >McVey Alltronix
> >327 Broadway
> >Newburgh Ny 12550
> >ph: 845 561 8383
> >fx: 845 561 9017
> >Consumer electronics &
> >computer service.
> >Factory authorized for
> >over twenty brands.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:24 PM
> >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.
> >
> >
> >> Al has that right. Basically, we either all stand together or we fall
> >> apart. How many more guys are going to have to go belly-up before some
> >> see the writing on the wall? ALL servicing under warranty must stop
> >> before the manufacturers start getting complaints from former
customers.
> >> We will have to stick together and hit them in the wallet, or they will
> >> never even look our way. The "every man for himself" attitude has to
> >> stop or we are ALL doomed! The coalminers and teamsters did it. No
> >> reason we can't. Get the prices of new back up to where they should be
> >> and start putting some "QUALITY" back into them. Then people won't mind
> >> paying more than $25 to get one fixed, if they know they can't run to
> >> wallyworld and get a new one for $35.
> >>
> >> Doug Keller
> >> Wis-Kel Electronics
> >> 101 Freeland Ave.
> >> Terra Alta, WV
> >> USA        26764
> >> dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> http://www.tech-assist.org
> >> "Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
> >> won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Al L wrote:
> >>
> >> >38 years here talking: We don't have the union mentality because when
> the
> >> >chips are down, its always every man for himself,always has been.No
> >matter
> >> >what people say,its like that. I help whenever I can, have been burned
> >often
> >> >by local guys.NESDA is helpful because we are not competing
> locally,hence
> >> >can be helpful and friendly.
> >> >    Would you really tell the guy next door how to attract more
> >customers?
> >> >al
> >> >
> >> >Al Leatherman
> >> >224 RT. 46
> >> >Mine Hill, NJ 07803
> >> >973-361-5796
> >> >WWW.ALS-TV.NET
> >> >
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:24 PM
> >> >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>True enough, but the manufacturers have a GREAT DEAL of influence
since
> >> >>NESDA owes it's very existence to them.
> >> >>It's a "service dealers" association in name only. That's why there
is
> >no
> >> >>"union-like" rhetoric found there.
> >> >>
> >> >>Jim McVey
> >> >>McVey Alltronix
> >> >>327 Broadway
> >> >>Newburgh Ny 12550
> >> >>ph: 845 561 8383
> >> >>fx: 845 561 9017
> >> >>Consumer electronics &
> >> >>computer service.
> >> >>Factory authorized for
> >> >>over twenty brands.
> >> >>----- Original Message -----
> >> >>From: <greentron@xxxxxxx>
> >> >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>Cc: "Tel-Tek" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 11:31 PM
> >> >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway Plasma
> >> >>GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>I dont think there is anything left BUT small independent servicers!
> Th
> >e
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>big guys, not supported by some other big guy, like Sears, and having
> >> >>captive customers, have pretty much all gone belly up. Just as you
cant
> >> >>squeeze blood out of a stone, you cant squeeze enough money out of
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >repairing
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>consumer electronics to support an organization. I am not aware of
ANY
> >big
> >> >>service organizations being a member of Nesda. With a total less than
a
> >> >>thousand members, it would be like the tail trying to wag the dog.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>J Silverman
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>That's why I said Nesda?
> >> >>>>I shouldn't knock them...but I don't think they have the Small
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>Independent
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>Servicer on their mind. I don't belong..so I will keep my mouth
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>(keyboard)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>shut.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>-Ed-
> >> >>>>Tel-Tek Electronics
> >> >>>>Ontario-Canada
> >> >>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>----- Original Message -----
> >> >>>>From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 6:02 PM
> >> >>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway
Plasma
> >> >>>>GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>NESDA look into something? ??????
> >> >>>>>NESDA is more "over the hill" than you are! LOL
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Jim McVey
> >> >>>>>McVey Alltronix
> >> >>>>>327 Broadway
> >> >>>>>Newburgh Ny 12550
> >> >>>>>ph: 845 561 8383
> >> >>>>>fx: 845 561 9017
> >> >>>>>Consumer electronics &
> >> >>>>>computer service.
> >> >>>>>Factory authorized for
> >> >>>>>over twenty brands.
> >> >>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >> >>>>>From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:50 PM
> >> >>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway
Plasma
> >> >>>>>GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Other manufacturers are doing about the same thing, lots of new
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>products
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>are exchange only, no parts available, no service manuals
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >available
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>and
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>once the product is out of warranty the price to exchange it is
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >more
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>>>>>than a new replacement unit. I'm sure there are laws against some
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >of
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>>>>>this, unfair trade practices, price fixing, etc. but I'm too far
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>over
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>the hill to really give a damn. Maybe some organization like
NESDA
> >> >>>>>>should be looking into it. Maybe they are, does anyone know?
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >>
>
>>**************************************************************************
> *
> >*
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>>>>***************************************
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Since 1972
> >> >>>>>>Jim Myers
> >> >>>>>>Telrad Electronics
> >> >>>>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Ed Gaidies wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>Whole new Rip-Off.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>-Ed-
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics
> >> >>>>>>>Ontario-Canada
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >> >>>>>>>From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:08 PM
> >> >>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>Plasma
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>>GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>Is that all? Only a grand? I figured it would be more when they
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>wanted
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>>>$300 just to reload windows. (you need their "secret code" to
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>unlock
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>the
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>cmos and it must be so classified that they can't tell you over
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>the
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>>>phone, by email, or snail-mail)
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>Doug Keller
> >> >>>>>>>>Wis-Kel Electronics
> >> >>>>>>>>101 Freeland Ave.
> >> >>>>>>>>Terra Alta, WV
> >> >>>>>>>>USA        26764
> >> >>>>>>>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>>>>>>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org
> >> >>>>>>>>"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
> >> >>>>>>>>won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>Jim Myers wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>Gateway refuses to sell parts even with pressure from the
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>customer.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>>>>Return set to customer, Gateway will send someone to fix it
for
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >a
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>>>cool
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>$1000.00.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >>
>
>>>>************************************************************************
> *
> >*
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>*
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>****************************************
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>Since 1972
> >> >>>>>>>>>Jim Myers
> >> >>>>>>>>>Telrad Electronics
> >> >>>>>>>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>Jim Myers wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>The voltage goes to zero with the sensor removed. There is no
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>pullup
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>resistor so I'm pretty sure the IC is the problem. I'll try
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>Zenith
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>next
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>week, maybe the have a similar model.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>
>
>>>>>***********************************************************************
> *
> >*
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>*
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>*****************************************
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>Since 1972
> >> >>>>>>>>>>Jim Myers
> >> >>>>>>>>>>Telrad Electronics
> >> >>>>>>>>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>greentron@xxxxxxx wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>Do you measure a low resistance to ground on the sensor
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >output
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>>>lead?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>Does the voltage on that lead go up to 5 (or maybe 3) volts
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>with
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>the
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>sensor removed? Is there a pull-up resistor?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>J Silverman
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>Tried a different IR sensor, no help, still just three
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >tenths
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>of a
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>volt on the output pin and ity-bitty pulses from the
remote.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >I
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>>>>traced
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>the IR path to IC U4 which is an 80 pin surface mount
square
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>flatpack, goes to pin 80. Number on U4 is 6413079F18 and it
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >is
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>on
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>the
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>board with 2 15 pin VGA, 1 9 pin serial and a flat panel
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>monitor
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>connector. Any information on where to get the ic or the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>board?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>
>
>>>>>>>*********************************************************************
> *
> >*
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>*
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>********
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>***********************************
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>Since 1972
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>Jim Myers
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>Telrad Electronics
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>Scott Beebe wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Hello Jim,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>If you take out the IR sensor, then that would rule out
the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>receiver. But it
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>sounds like a micro problem to me.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanx,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Scott Beebe
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Ohm Electronics Inc.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>609 W. Clinton St.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Ithaca NY 14850
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Voice: (607) 273-8406
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Fax: (607) 273-8743
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>WWW.OhmElectronicsInc.com
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>mailto:Scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Wednesday, March 31, 2004, 3:57:48 PM, you wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> Are technical questions still allowed?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> This Gateway GTW-P42M102 has a sticker on the inside
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>that
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>says
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>it is a
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> LG model PDP42WVSN3. The owner says a worker at the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>office
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>caused a
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> static spark when she reached for the buttons on the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>front,
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>now
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>it has
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> the menu displayed over the picture all the time with
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>the
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>cursor bar
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> scrolling up over and over. Also the remote no longer
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>works.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>The wire
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> from the remote receiver at the connector has three
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>tenths
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>of
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>a
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>volt and
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> very low amplitude pulses when the remote is
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >activated.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>The
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>end
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>wire on
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> this 6 pin connector has 5 volts. Sounds like the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >micro
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>or
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>the
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>>IR
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> receiver got zapped but if anyone has service manual
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >or
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>information on
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> this a little help would be nice.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> Thanks,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>
>
>>>>>>>*********************************************************************
> *
> >*
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>*
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>********
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>***********************************
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> Since 1972
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> Jim Myers
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> Telrad Electronics
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> Fort Wayne, Indiana
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>
>
>>>>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >-
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>-
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>-----
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> Lost Password:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>Problems?".
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> Email Archives:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim> //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>
>
>>>>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >-
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>-
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>------
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
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> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>
>
>>>>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >-
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>-
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>-----
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>Lost Password:
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> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>
>
>>>>>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >-
> >> >>>>>-
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>----
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>Lost Password:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>Email Archives:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>
>
>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >-
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>-
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>--
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>Lost Password:
> >> >>>>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
> >> >>>>>>>>>Email Archives:
> >> >>>>>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >>
>
>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >-
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>>>---
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>Lost Password:
> >> >>>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
> >> >>>>>>>>Email Archives:
> >> >>>>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >>
>
>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>---
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>Lost Password:
> >> >>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
> >> >>>>>>>Email Archives:
> >> >>>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >>
>
>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>---
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Lost Password:
> >> >>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
> >> >>>>>>Email Archives:
> >> >>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >>
>
>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>---
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>Lost Password:
> >> >>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
> >> >>>>>Email Archives:
> >> >>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >>
>
>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >> >>---
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>Lost Password:
> >> >>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
> >> >>>>Email Archives:
> >> >>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >>
>
>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >> >>---
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>Lost Password:
> >> >>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
> >> >>>Email Archives:
> >> >>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >>
>
>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >---
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>Lost Password:
> >> >>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
> >> >>Email Archives:
> >> >>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
>
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >--
> >> >Lost Password:
> >> >http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
> >> >Email Archives:
> >> >//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >---
> >> Lost Password:
> >> http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
> >> Email Archives:
> >> //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> >
> >
> >
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> >Lost Password:
> >http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
> >Email Archives:
> >//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
> >
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
> Lost Password:
> http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
> Email Archives:
> //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/



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Lost Password:
http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
Email Archives:
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References:
- [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.
  - From: LeRoy Westlund
[TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.

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