Goliath lives on! He's still eating your dues and crapping on your front lawn! LOL! Give my reagards and thanks to Sam Sieden who was good enough to by "buy back" my membership. He was instrumental in making me see "how it is" at NESDA. Now I no longer waste my time talking to those who REFUSE to listen. Talking/pleading/confronting were all in vain and I appologize for trying to accomplish something. Now I know it's not the "NESDA way" and I never should have tried. Life is an on-going learning experience... Jim McVey McVey Alltronix 327 Broadway Newburgh Ny 12550 ph: 845 561 8383 fx: 845 561 9017 Consumer electronics & computer service. Factory authorized for over twenty brands. ----- Original Message ----- From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:49 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA. > You can work with someone to solve problems or you can confront them and > make demands. Nesda solves what problems it can by working with both parties > towards a solution. When you use the confrontational approach, the bigger, > stronger guy wins. Or, maybe, like David, you can kill Goliath. But then > what do you do next? > Jerry Silverman > Greentron Inc > 4 Newland Ave > Greenville SC 29609 > 864 232 3889 > Fax 271 2080 > mailto:greentron@xxxxxxx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:56 PM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA. > > > > Voices of progress should not be considered > > "troublemakers", yet that's EXACTLY how they are perceived! > > So, us "troublemakers " move on and let the "old guard" give each other > > longevity awards. > > Life goes on... > > > > Jim McVey > > McVey Alltronix > > 327 Broadway > > Newburgh Ny 12550 > > ph: 845 561 8383 > > fx: 845 561 9017 > > Consumer electronics & > > computer service. > > Factory authorized for > > over twenty brands. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Wayne Vanaman" <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 11:52 AM > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA. > > > > > > > What it takes to change NESDA is some of us troublemakers willing to > stick > > > it out. > > > > > > NESDA is made up of some of the "common people", the trouble is too many > > are > > > not willing to speak up. Me, I choose my fights over there. I have > made > > a > > > few people upset, and a few things have changed. Not enough. > > > > > > However I have neither the time nor the financial resources to do more > > than > > > sit on the sidelines. > > > > > > Wayne Vanaman > > > Omega Electronics > > > 6904 W Fairfield Dr > > > Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310 > > > > > > Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com > > > > > > 850-456-5995 voice > > > 850-458-6369 fax > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 11:10 AM > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA. > > > > > > > > > > Al, > > > > > > > > You see, that's the problem. The "big shots" are the public face of > > NESDA. > > > > If they make it difficult to participate or change the organization > for > > > the > > > > better, people get turned off very quickly. > > > > > > > > Our local chamber SEEKS OUT new ideas and opinions. If the consensus > is > > > that > > > > something needs changing, then IT GETS CHANGED. > > > > No angry denunciations and inuendo-just PROGRESS and a spirit of a > > common > > > > goal. > > > > > > > > NESDA needs to be more like the chamber of commerce and become more > > > > accessable to be effective. > > > > > > > > Just one man's "opinion". > > > > > > > > Jim McVey > > > > McVey Alltronix > > > > 327 Broadway > > > > Newburgh Ny 12550 > > > > ph: 845 561 8383 > > > > fx: 845 561 9017 > > > > Consumer electronics & > > > > computer service. > > > > Factory authorized for > > > > over twenty brands. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Al L" <alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 6:04 PM > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim, > > > > > You fit better than you think.I and a few others are considered > > NESDA > > > > > troublemakers,screw em. I get help on business tips,tech tips,meet > > nice > > > > > guys,and joined the New York group.I can share ideas since we aren't > > > next > > > > > door. > > > > > I get on Toshiba,RCA,and Hitachi websites through NESDA,get free > > > > > manuals,am not an asc.Most importantly, I went to the convention,met > > > > > privately with a lot of small guys,and discovered I am pretty > > > typical.Its > > > > > nice to have people to consult with. > > > > > Don't take the NESDA "big shots" seriously,and things are fine.I > > > > > frequently openly oppose them and got on sever al parts > websites(they > > > > fought > > > > > me) recently,and convinced them to provide help on the tech > tips.They > > do > > > > > listen, sometimes reluctantly. > > > > > Then there is the training on various manufacturers,last week > > > Toshiba, > > > > > next month JVC.I am going to the Va. convention for training and > > > > > partying,and Nashville later this summer. I get good value for my > > money. > > > > al > > > > > > > > > > Al Leatherman > > > > > 224 RT. 46 > > > > > Mine Hill, NJ 07803 > > > > > 973-361-5796 > > > > > WWW.ALS-TV.NET > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Al, > > > > > > What happens when the guy next door joins as well? > > > > > > I don't know if it's really possible to attract individual > customers > > > in > > > > > this > > > > > > business. > > > > > > They need you when they need you, otherwise the servicer is a > > > > non-entity. > > > > > > The usual retail type techniques are too inefficient for us since > we > > > > > cannot > > > > > > generate "impulse buy" interest. > > > > > > > > > > > > As you say, it IS every man for himself! You are a wise man not to > > > share > > > > > > your promotional ideas with a competitor, it can only come back to > > > bite > > > > > you. > > > > > > However, what does NESDA do other than collect dues and throw a > > party? > > > > > > All their "programs" can be found elsewhere as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you enjoy the convention and veteran member cliques, then I > > suppose > > > > > it's > > > > > > worth it for you. I was more interested in improving the lot of > the > > > > > service > > > > > > business in the US (and Canada). I didn't fit in. > > > > > > Hey, it's all about choices! To each his own... > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim McVey > > > > > > McVey Alltronix > > > > > > 327 Broadway > > > > > > Newburgh Ny 12550 > > > > > > ph: 845 561 8383 > > > > > > fx: 845 561 9017 > > > > > > Consumer electronics & > > > > > > computer service. > > > > > > Factory authorized for > > > > > > over twenty brands. > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Al L" <alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 2:17 PM > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 38 years here talking: We don't have the union mentality because > > > when > > > > > the > > > > > > > chips are down, its always every man for himself,always has > > been.No > > > > > matter > > > > > > > what people say,its like that. I help whenever I can, have been > > > burned > > > > > > often > > > > > > > by local guys.NESDA is helpful because we are not competing > > > > > locally,hence > > > > > > > can be helpful and friendly. > > > > > > > Would you really tell the guy next door how to attract more > > > > > customers? > > > > > > > al > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Al Leatherman > > > > > > > 224 RT. 46 > > > > > > > Mine Hill, NJ 07803 > > > > > > > 973-361-5796 > > > > > > > WWW.ALS-TV.NET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:24 PM > > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > True enough, but the manufacturers have a GREAT DEAL of > > influence > > > > > since > > > > > > > > NESDA owes it's very existence to them. > > > > > > > > It's a "service dealers" association in name only. That's why > > > there > > > > is > > > > > > no > > > > > > > > "union-like" rhetoric found there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim McVey > > > > > > > > McVey Alltronix > > > > > > > > 327 Broadway > > > > > > > > Newburgh Ny 12550 > > > > > > > > ph: 845 561 8383 > > > > > > > > fx: 845 561 9017 > > > > > > > > Consumer electronics & > > > > > > > > computer service. > > > > > > > > Factory authorized for > > > > > > > > over twenty brands. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: <greentron@xxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > Cc: "Tel-Tek" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; > <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 11:31 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway > > > Plasma > > > > > > > > GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont think there is anything left BUT small independent > > > > servicers! > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > big guys, not supported by some other big guy, like Sears, and > > > > having > > > > > > > > captive customers, have pretty much all gone belly up. Just as > > you > > > > > cant > > > > > > > > squeeze blood out of a stone, you cant squeeze enough money > out > > of > > > > > > > repairing > > > > > > > > consumer electronics to support an organization. I am not > aware > > of > > > > ANY > > > > > > big > > > > > > > > service organizations being a member of Nesda. With a total > less > > > > than > > > > > a > > > > > > > > thousand members, it would be like the tail trying to wag the > > dog. > > > > > > > > > J Silverman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's why I said Nesda? > > > > > > > > > > I shouldn't knock them...but I don't think they have the > > Small > > > > > > > > Independent > > > > > > > > > > Servicer on their mind. I don't belong..so I will keep my > > > mouth > > > > > > > > (keyboard) > > > > > > > > > > shut. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Ed- > > > > > > > > > > Tel-Tek Electronics > > > > > > > > > > Ontario-Canada > > > > > > > > > > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 6:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: > > Gateway > > > > > Plasma > > > > > > > > > > GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NESDA look into something? ?????? > > > > > > > > > > > NESDA is more "over the hill" than you are! LOL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim McVey > > > > > > > > > > > McVey Alltronix > > > > > > > > > > > 327 Broadway > > > > > > > > > > > Newburgh Ny 12550 > > > > > > > > > > > ph: 845 561 8383 > > > > > > > > > > > fx: 845 561 9017 > > > > > > > > > > > Consumer electronics & > > > > > > > > > > > computer service. > > > > > > > > > > > Factory authorized for > > > > > > > > > > > over twenty brands. > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:50 PM > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: > > > Gateway > > > > > > Plasma > > > > > > > > > > > GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Other manufacturers are doing about the same thing, > lots > > > of > > > > > new > > > > > > > > products > > > > > > > > > > > > are exchange only, no parts available, no service > > manuals > > > > > > > available > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > once the product is out of warranty the price to > > exchange > > > it > > > > > is > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > than a new replacement unit. I'm sure there are laws > > > against > > > > > > some > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > this, unfair trade practices, price fixing, etc. but > I'm > > > too > > > > > far > > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > > > > > the hill to really give a damn. Maybe some > organization > > > like > > > > > > NESDA > > > > > > > > > > > > should be looking into it. Maybe they are, does anyone > > > know? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************************************************************************** > > > > > > > > > > > *************************************** > > > > > > > > > > > > Since 1972 > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim Myers > > > > > > > > > > > > Telrad Electronics > > > > > > > > > > > > Fort Wayne, Indiana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ed Gaidies wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whole new Rip-Off. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Ed- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tel-Tek Electronics > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ontario-Canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:08 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! > Re: > > > > > Gateway > > > > > > > > Plasma > > > > > > > > > > > > > GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Is that all? Only a grand? I figured it would be > more > > > when > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > wanted > > > > > > > > > > > > >>$300 just to reload windows. (you need their "secret > > > code" > > > > > to > > > > > > > > unlock > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > >>cmos and it must be so classified that they can't > tell > > > you > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > >>phone, by email, or snail-mail) > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Doug Keller > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Wis-Kel Electronics > > > > > > > > > > > > >>101 Freeland Ave. > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Terra Alta, WV > > > > > > > > > > > > >>USA 26764 > > > > > > > > > > > > >>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > >>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > >>http://www.tech-assist.org > > > > > > > > > > > > >>"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you > > > > > > > > > > > > >>won't live long enough to make them all yourself" > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Jim Myers wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>Gateway refuses to sell parts even with pressure > from > > > the > > > > > > > > customer. > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>Return set to customer, Gateway will send someone > to > > > fix > > > > it > > > > > > for > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > cool > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>$1000.00. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>************************************************************************** > > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************************************** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>Since 1972 > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>Jim Myers > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>Telrad Electronics > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>Fort Wayne, Indiana > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>Jim Myers wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>The voltage goes to zero with the sensor removed. > > > There > > > > is > > > > > > no > > > > > > > > pullup > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>resistor so I'm pretty sure the IC is the problem. > > > I'll > > > > > try > > > > > > > > Zenith > > > > > > > > > > > next > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>week, maybe the have a similar model. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>************************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************************** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>Since 1972 > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>Jim Myers > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>Telrad Electronics > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>greentron@xxxxxxx wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>Do you measure a low resistance to ground on the > > > sensor > > > > > > > output > > > > > > > > > > lead? > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>Does the voltage on that lead go up to 5 (or > maybe > > 3) > > > > > volts > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>sensor removed? Is there a pull-up resistor? > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>J Silverman > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>Tried a different IR sensor, no help, still just > > > three > > > > > > > tenths > > > > > > > > of a > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>volt on the output pin and ity-bitty pulses from > > the > > > > > > remote. > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > traced > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>the IR path to IC U4 which is an 80 pin surface > > > mount > > > > > > square > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>flatpack, goes to pin 80. Number on U4 is > > 6413079F18 > > > > and > > > > > > it > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>board with 2 15 pin VGA, 1 9 pin serial and a > flat > > > > panel > > > > > > > > monitor > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>connector. Any information on where to get the > ic > > or > > > > the > > > > > > > > board? > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>*********************************************************************** > > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ******** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>*********************************** > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>Since 1972 > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>Jim Myers > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>Telrad Electronics > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>Scott Beebe wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Hello Jim, > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>If you take out the IR sensor, then that would > > rule > > > > out > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>receiver. But it > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>sounds like a micro problem to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Thanx, > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Scott Beebe > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Ohm Electronics Inc. > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>609 W. Clinton St. > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Ithaca NY 14850 > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Voice: (607) 273-8406 > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Fax: (607) 273-8743 > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>WWW.OhmElectronicsInc.com > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>mailto:Scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Wednesday, March 31, 2004, 3:57:48 PM, you > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> Are technical questions still allowed? > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> This Gateway GTW-P42M102 has a sticker on > > the > > > > > inside > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > says > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>it is a > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> LG model PDP42WVSN3. The owner says a > worker > > > at > > > > > the > > > > > > > > office > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>caused a > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> static spark when she reached for the > > buttons > > > on > > > > > the > > > > > > > > front, > > > > > > > > > > > now > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>it has > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> the menu displayed over the picture all > the > > > time > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>cursor bar > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> scrolling up over and over. Also the > remote > > no > > > > > > longer > > > > > > > > works. > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>The wire > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> from the remote receiver at the connector > > has > > > > > three > > > > > > > > tenths > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>volt and > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> very low amplitude pulses when the remote > is > > > > > > > activated. > > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > > > end > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>wire on > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> this 6 pin connector has 5 volts. Sounds > > like > > > > the > > > > > > > micro > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> receiver got zapped but if anyone has > > service > > > > > manual > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>information on > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> this a little help would be nice. > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>*********************************************************************** > > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ******** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>*********************************** > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> Since 1972 > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> Jim Myers > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> Telrad Electronics > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> Fort Wayne, Indiana > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> Lost Password: > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> http://www.tech-assist.org and select > > "Login > > > > > > > > Problems?". > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> Email Archives: > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Lost Password: > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login > > > > > Problems?". > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Email Archives: > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>Lost Password: > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login > > > > > Problems?". > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>Email Archives: > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>Lost Password: > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login > > > > Problems?". > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>Email Archives: > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>Lost Password: > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login > > > Problems?". > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>Email Archives: > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Lost Password: > > > > > > > > > > > > >>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login > > > Problems?". > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Email Archives: > > > > > > > > > > > > >>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lost Password: > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login > > > Problems?". > > > > > > > > > > > > > Email Archives: > > > > > > > > > > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > Lost Password: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login > > Problems?". > > > > > > > > > > > > Email Archives: > > > > > > > > > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > Lost Password: > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login > Problems?". > > > > > > > > > > > Email Archives: > > > > > > > > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > Lost Password: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > > > > > > > > > Email Archives: > > > > > > > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > Lost Password: > > > > > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > > > > > > > > Email Archives: > > > > > > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > Lost Password: > > > > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > > > > > > > Email Archives: > > > > > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > Lost Password: > > > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > > > > > > Email Archives: > > > > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > --- > > > > > > Lost Password: > > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > > > > > Email Archives: > > > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > --- > > > > > Lost Password: > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > > > > Email Archives: > > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --- > > > > Lost Password: > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > > > Email Archives: > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --- > > > Lost Password: > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > > Email Archives: > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > Lost Password: > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > Email Archives: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > Lost Password: > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > Email Archives: > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". 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