[TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.

  • From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 00:26:20 -0600

Thanks for responding to my comments, Jerry.
I kinda figured nobody would take my post very seriously.
The fact is,...people will still buy the products, no matter how much they
cost. Why ? Cause the American people are so spoiled, that they will not go
without the things they have become acustomed to enjoying, by plunging
themselves so far in dept with their credit cards, that MOST will never
recover.

They have shown that they will pay the price on just about anything if they
are given no choice. Just look at the price of gas, and the cost of buying a
new car. They continue to pay higher prices,....and nobody is even
complaining about it.

All I want them (The government) to do, is slap a high import fee on TVs,
and DVDs, and stereos, etc,, that are being dumped on the US market from
Mexico, and over seas. I know that's a move that involves the US government,
and the manufacturers, and service associations have little, or no contol
over it. But,...how long do you think TCE, and Philips will remain in China,
when they find out that people in the US are not allowing themselves to be
the dumpimg ground for all the JUNK that they are causing to flow from there
?

If someone SOMEWHERE does not do what needs to be done,....this country is
going to be LOST (In more ways then one). We need to get rid of NAFTA, slap
high import fees on units manufaturered over seas, and FORCE the electronic
manufacturers to build plants here in this country, to create more jobs for
the people. This way, more $$$ will be spent here in the US, the tax base
will increase,and people who really want to turn things around for the
better, will be able to do it, and the American consumer will be more able
to pay the higer prices that are going to be needed.  Until then,...we are
just plain DOOMED,....and in this regard,...I tend to agree with you.

LLW

LeRoy Westlund
Westlund TV & Electronics
97 North Main                                "Where there's a will,...
Centerfield, UT 84622-0087           There's always a way."
Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: J Silverman <greentron@xxxxxxx>
To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Saturday, April 17, 2004 1:19 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.


>You just dont seem to get the point! The manufacturers have layed the
golden
>eggs (service opportunities) of the past. They dont owe you anything. You
>have chosen to take advantage of this situation rather than doing something
>else for a living. But the money just isnt there and there isnt anything
>that you or I or any organization can do about it. They know that you cant
>survive on this pittance and they dont expect you to be around forever so
>they are taking steps to handle future service in an entirely different way
>that doesnt require technicians and service centers. Big companies like UPS
>and IBM are already involved in exclusive national service on many
products,
>and new products coming on to the market have been designed to take
>advantage of that method of service. So you wont be seeing the new stuff
and
>if you do, there wont be any parts or manuals. If you have an idea about
how
>to turn this situation back to our advantage, that wont kill the
>manufacturers or make the products so expensive that people wont buy them,
>lets hear it!
>Jerry Silverman
>Greentron Inc
>4 Newland Ave
>Greenville SC 29609
>864 232 3889
>Fax 271 2080
>mailto:greentron@xxxxxxx
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 1:54 AM
>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.
>
>
>> Jim,
>> Maybe you should have stayed with them, and offered your services to run
>for
>> President of that Organiztion.
>> There have been a LOT of good people coming, and going from that
>particular
>> Organization, ( I could name a few,...but,..they know who they
>> are ).....but,...NONE of them have had the guts, to get mixed up with
them
>> to the point of making major changes, and offering to take the bull by
the
>> horn.
>>
>> I would have stayed with them, after the ONE year of free
>> membership,....but,...I could not keep up with the financial burden that
>it
>> placed on me. It's the same problem as you run into, if you were to run
>for
>> pesident of the U.S.,..the POOR guy has NO chance,...ONLY the most
>> successful members have the time, and the finances to be involved with
all
>> there conventions, meetings, etc.,...and these are the people that always
>> need the least amount of help.
>>
>> The top brass of Nesda are there for their own benifit, and social
>> positions, and they only use the rest of us to help pay the dues, and the
>> bills, that keep them in power. I'm not sure this is the best place
>>  TechAssist ), to be discussing the operations of other peoples
>> associations. Maybe we need to start our OWN Associasion, and not be so
>> friendly towards the Manufacturers. How about it ? Anybody out there who
>> wants to be in the top brass positions of a NEW organization ? You guys
>help
>> compose the messages that you want to get through to the
>> manufacturers,....and I'll send them for you. Just provide the e-mail
>> addresses for me. Let's get some of you ASC guys involved, and threaten
>the
>> manufacturers to stop doing warranty work for them, until they get in
>line,
>> and clean up there act.
>>
>> There are also, a lot of members on this list who have never been
involved
>> with Nesda, that MIGHT could help us form a NEW Association, that could
>> better serve us remaining independents by approacing things from a
>different
>> direction, and with a MORE stern attitude.
>> .
>> Just a thought,
>> LLW
>>
>> LeRoy Westlund
>> Westlund TV & Electronics
>> 97 North Main                                "Where there's a will,...
>> Centerfield, UT 84622-0087           There's always a way."
>> Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
>> mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: becyn <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:35 PM
>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.
>>
>>
>> >Doug,
>> >I wouldn't stand one one foot waiting for the manufacturers to increase
>> >quality and prices.
>> >People want "cheap products". Why do you think Wal-mart is so
successful?
>> We
>> >as businessmen have to accept this as our new environment to which we
>must
>> >adapt or perish.
>> >
>> >I always thought that NESDA could have done alot more for the service
>> >industry by working on issues like;
>> >Standardization of warranty proceedures and electronic entry formats.
>> >
>> >Standardization of manual distribution format.
>> >
>> >Product serviceability (such as all projos should have a rermoveable
>light
>> >box, etc).
>> >
>> >Work with the membership to develop a useful universal, comprehensive
>> >call/claim management system for automating the industry.
>> >
>> >Lobby for better rates or better methods of repairing inexpensive items.
>(
>> >such as not requiring component level repair)
>> >
>> >Well, you get the idea...I could go on...
>> >
>> >Jim McVey
>> >McVey Alltronix
>> >327 Broadway
>> >Newburgh Ny 12550
>> >ph: 845 561 8383
>> >fx: 845 561 9017
>> >Consumer electronics &
>> >computer service.
>> >Factory authorized for
>> >over twenty brands.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:24 PM
>> >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.
>> >
>> >
>> >> Al has that right. Basically, we either all stand together or we fall
>> >> apart. How many more guys are going to have to go belly-up before some
>> >> see the writing on the wall? ALL servicing under warranty must stop
>> >> before the manufacturers start getting complaints from former
>customers.
>> >> We will have to stick together and hit them in the wallet, or they
will
>> >> never even look our way. The "every man for himself" attitude has to
>> >> stop or we are ALL doomed! The coalminers and teamsters did it. No
>> >> reason we can't. Get the prices of new back up to where they should be
>> >> and start putting some "QUALITY" back into them. Then people won't
mind
>> >> paying more than $25 to get one fixed, if they know they can't run to
>> >> wallyworld and get a new one for $35.
>> >>
>> >> Doug Keller
>> >> Wis-Kel Electronics
>> >> 101 Freeland Ave.
>> >> Terra Alta, WV
>> >> USA        26764
>> >> dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> http://www.tech-assist.org
>> >> "Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
>> >> won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Al L wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >38 years here talking: We don't have the union mentality because when
>> the
>> >> >chips are down, its always every man for himself,always has been.No
>> >matter
>> >> >what people say,its like that. I help whenever I can, have been
burned
>> >often
>> >> >by local guys.NESDA is helpful because we are not competing
>> locally,hence
>> >> >can be helpful and friendly.
>> >> >    Would you really tell the guy next door how to attract more
>> >customers?
>> >> >al
>> >> >
>> >> >Al Leatherman
>> >> >224 RT. 46
>> >> >Mine Hill, NJ 07803
>> >> >973-361-5796
>> >> >WWW.ALS-TV.NET
>> >> >
>> >> >----- Original Message -----
>> >> >From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:24 PM
>> >> >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>True enough, but the manufacturers have a GREAT DEAL of influence
>since
>> >> >>NESDA owes it's very existence to them.
>> >> >>It's a "service dealers" association in name only. That's why there
>is
>> >no
>> >> >>"union-like" rhetoric found there.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Jim McVey
>> >> >>McVey Alltronix
>> >> >>327 Broadway
>> >> >>Newburgh Ny 12550
>> >> >>ph: 845 561 8383
>> >> >>fx: 845 561 9017
>> >> >>Consumer electronics &
>> >> >>computer service.
>> >> >>Factory authorized for
>> >> >>over twenty brands.



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