[TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.

From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 12:10:57 -0400
Al,

You see, that's the problem. The "big shots" are the public face of NESDA.
If they make it difficult to participate or change the organization for the
better, people get turned off very quickly.

Our local chamber SEEKS OUT new ideas and opinions. If the consensus is that
something needs changing, then IT GETS CHANGED.
No angry denunciations and inuendo-just PROGRESS and a spirit of a common
goal.

NESDA needs to be more like the chamber of commerce and become more
accessable to be effective.

Just one man's "opinion".

Jim McVey
McVey Alltronix
327 Broadway
Newburgh Ny 12550
ph: 845 561 8383
fx: 845 561 9017
Consumer electronics &
computer service.
Factory authorized for
over twenty brands.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al L" <alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 6:04 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.


> Jim,
>   You fit better than you think.I and a few others are considered NESDA
> troublemakers,screw em. I get help on business tips,tech tips,meet nice
> guys,and joined the New York group.I can share ideas since we aren't next
> door.
>    I get on Toshiba,RCA,and Hitachi websites through NESDA,get free
> manuals,am not an asc.Most importantly, I went to the convention,met
> privately with a lot of small guys,and discovered I am pretty typical.Its
> nice to have people to consult with.
>     Don't take the NESDA "big shots" seriously,and things are fine.I
> frequently openly oppose them and got on sever al parts websites(they
fought
> me) recently,and convinced them to provide help on the tech tips.They do
> listen, sometimes reluctantly.
>    Then there is the training on various manufacturers,last week Toshiba,
> next month JVC.I am going to the Va. convention for training and
> partying,and Nashville later this summer. I get good value for my money.
al
>
> Al Leatherman
> 224 RT. 46
> Mine Hill, NJ 07803
> 973-361-5796
> WWW.ALS-TV.NET
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.
>
>
> > Al,
> > What happens when the guy next door joins as well?
> > I don't know if it's really possible to attract individual customers in
> this
> > business.
> > They need you when they need you, otherwise the servicer is a
non-entity.
> > The usual retail type techniques are too inefficient for us since we
> cannot
> > generate "impulse buy" interest.
> >
> > As you say, it IS every man for himself! You are a wise man not to share
> > your promotional ideas with a competitor, it can only come back to bite
> you.
> > However, what does NESDA do other than collect dues and throw a party?
> > All their "programs" can be found elsewhere as well.
> >
> > If you enjoy the convention and veteran member cliques, then I suppose
> it's
> > worth it for you. I was more interested in improving the lot of the
> service
> > business in the US (and Canada). I didn't fit in.
> > Hey, it's all about choices! To each his own...
> >
> > Jim McVey
> > McVey Alltronix
> > 327 Broadway
> > Newburgh Ny 12550
> > ph: 845 561 8383
> > fx: 845 561 9017
> > Consumer electronics &
> > computer service.
> > Factory authorized for
> > over twenty brands.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Al L" <alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 2:17 PM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.
> >
> >
> > > 38 years here talking: We don't have the union mentality because when
> the
> > > chips are down, its always every man for himself,always has been.No
> matter
> > > what people say,its like that. I help whenever I can, have been burned
> > often
> > > by local guys.NESDA is helpful because we are not competing
> locally,hence
> > > can be helpful and friendly.
> > >     Would you really tell the guy next door how to attract more
> customers?
> > > al
> > >
> > > Al Leatherman
> > > 224 RT. 46
> > > Mine Hill, NJ 07803
> > > 973-361-5796
> > > WWW.ALS-TV.NET
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:24 PM
> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! -NESDA.
> > >
> > >
> > > > True enough, but the manufacturers have a GREAT DEAL of influence
> since
> > > > NESDA owes it's very existence to them.
> > > > It's a "service dealers" association in name only. That's why there
is
> > no
> > > > "union-like" rhetoric found there.
> > > >
> > > > Jim McVey
> > > > McVey Alltronix
> > > > 327 Broadway
> > > > Newburgh Ny 12550
> > > > ph: 845 561 8383
> > > > fx: 845 561 9017
> > > > Consumer electronics &
> > > > computer service.
> > > > Factory authorized for
> > > > over twenty brands.
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: <greentron@xxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Cc: "Tel-Tek" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 11:31 PM
> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway Plasma
> > > > GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I dont think there is anything left BUT small independent
servicers!
> > The
> > > > big guys, not supported by some other big guy, like Sears, and
having
> > > > captive customers, have pretty much all gone belly up. Just as you
> cant
> > > > squeeze blood out of a stone, you cant squeeze enough money out of
> > > repairing
> > > > consumer electronics to support an organization. I am not aware of
ANY
> > big
> > > > service organizations being a member of Nesda. With a total less
than
> a
> > > > thousand members, it would be like the tail trying to wag the dog.
> > > > > J Silverman
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > That's why I said Nesda?
> > > > > > I shouldn't knock them...but I don't think they have the Small
> > > > Independent
> > > > > > Servicer on their mind. I don't belong..so I will keep my mouth
> > > > (keyboard)
> > > > > > shut.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Ed-
> > > > > > Tel-Tek Electronics
> > > > > > Ontario-Canada
> > > > > > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > > From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 6:02 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway
> Plasma
> > > > > > GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > NESDA look into something? ??????
> > > > > > > NESDA is more "over the hill" than you are! LOL
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jim McVey
> > > > > > > McVey Alltronix
> > > > > > > 327 Broadway
> > > > > > > Newburgh Ny 12550
> > > > > > > ph: 845 561 8383
> > > > > > > fx: 845 561 9017
> > > > > > > Consumer electronics &
> > > > > > > computer service.
> > > > > > > Factory authorized for
> > > > > > > over twenty brands.
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > > > From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:50 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re: Gateway
> > Plasma
> > > > > > > GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Other manufacturers are doing about the same thing, lots of
> new
> > > > products
> > > > > > > > are exchange only, no parts available, no service manuals
> > > available
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > once the product is out of warranty the price to exchange it
> is
> > > more
> > > > > > > > than a new replacement unit. I'm sure there are laws against
> > some
> > > of
> > > > > > > > this, unfair trade practices, price fixing, etc. but I'm too
> far
> > > > over
> > > > > > > > the hill to really give a damn. Maybe some organization like
> > NESDA
> > > > > > > > should be looking into it. Maybe they are, does anyone know?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
****************************************************************************
> > > > > > > ***************************************
> > > > > > > > Since 1972
> > > > > > > > Jim Myers
> > > > > > > > Telrad Electronics
> > > > > > > > Fort Wayne, Indiana
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ed Gaidies wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Whole new Rip-Off.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -Ed-
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Tel-Tek Electronics
> > > > > > > > > Ontario-Canada
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > > > > > From: "Doug Keller" <dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:08 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: UPDATE, Final solution! Re:
> Gateway
> > > > Plasma
> > > > > > > > > GTW-P42M102 zapped by static from a hot secretary.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>Is that all? Only a grand? I figured it would be more when
> > they
> > > > wanted
> > > > > > > > >>$300 just to reload windows. (you need their "secret code"
> to
> > > > unlock
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>cmos and it must be so classified that they can't tell you
> > over
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>phone, by email, or snail-mail)
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>Doug Keller
> > > > > > > > >>Wis-Kel Electronics
> > > > > > > > >>101 Freeland Ave.
> > > > > > > > >>Terra Alta, WV
> > > > > > > > >>USA        26764
> > > > > > > > >>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > >>dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > >>http://www.tech-assist.org
> > > > > > > > >>"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
> > > > > > > > >>won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>Jim Myers wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>>Gateway refuses to sell parts even with pressure from the
> > > > customer.
> > > > > > > > >>>Return set to customer, Gateway will send someone to fix
it
> > for
> > > a
> > > > > > cool
> > > > > > > > >>>$1000.00.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>>**************************************************************************
> > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ****************************************
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>Since 1972
> > > > > > > > >>>Jim Myers
> > > > > > > > >>>Telrad Electronics
> > > > > > > > >>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>Jim Myers wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>The voltage goes to zero with the sensor removed. There
is
> > no
> > > > pullup
> > > > > > > > >>>>resistor so I'm pretty sure the IC is the problem. I'll
> try
> > > > Zenith
> > > > > > > next
> > > > > > > > >>>>week, maybe the have a similar model.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>>>*************************************************************************
> > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > *****************************************
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>>Since 1972
> > > > > > > > >>>>Jim Myers
> > > > > > > > >>>>Telrad Electronics
> > > > > > > > >>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>greentron@xxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>Do you measure a low resistance to ground on the sensor
> > > output
> > > > > > lead?
> > > > > > > > >>>>>Does the voltage on that lead go up to 5 (or maybe 3)
> volts
> > > > with
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>sensor removed? Is there a pull-up resistor?
> > > > > > > > >>>>>J Silverman
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>Tried a different IR sensor, no help, still just three
> > > tenths
> > > > of a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>volt on the output pin and ity-bitty pulses from the
> > remote.
> > > I
> > > > > > > traced
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>the IR path to IC U4 which is an 80 pin surface mount
> > square
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>flatpack, goes to pin 80. Number on U4 is 6413079F18
and
> > it
> > > is
> > > > on
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>board with 2 15 pin VGA, 1 9 pin serial and a flat
panel
> > > > monitor
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>connector. Any information on where to get the ic or
the
> > > > board?
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>>>>>***********************************************************************
> > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ********
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>***********************************
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>Since 1972
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>Jim Myers
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>Telrad Electronics
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>Scott Beebe wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Hello Jim,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>If you take out the IR sensor, then that would rule
out
> > the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>receiver. But it
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>sounds like a micro problem to me.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Thanx,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Scott Beebe
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Ohm Electronics Inc.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>609 W. Clinton St.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Ithaca NY 14850
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Voice: (607) 273-8406
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Fax: (607) 273-8743
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>WWW.OhmElectronicsInc.com
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>mailto:Scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Wednesday, March 31, 2004, 3:57:48 PM, you wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> Are technical questions still allowed?
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> This Gateway GTW-P42M102 has a sticker on the
> inside
> > > > that
> > > > > > says
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>it is a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> LG model PDP42WVSN3. The owner says a worker at
> the
> > > > office
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>caused a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> static spark when she reached for the buttons on
> the
> > > > front,
> > > > > > > now
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>it has
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> the menu displayed over the picture all the time
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>cursor bar
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> scrolling up over and over. Also the remote no
> > longer
> > > > works.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>The wire
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> from the remote receiver at the connector has
> three
> > > > tenths
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>volt and
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> very low amplitude pulses when the remote is
> > > activated.
> > > > The
> > > > > > > end
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>wire on
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> this 6 pin connector has 5 volts. Sounds like
the
> > > micro
> > > > or
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > IR
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> receiver got zapped but if anyone has service
> manual
> > > or
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>information on
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> this a little help would be nice.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>>>>>***********************************************************************
> > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ********
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>***********************************
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> Since 1972
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> Jim Myers
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> Telrad Electronics
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim> Fort Wayne, Indiana
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Jim>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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