[TechAssist] Re: The continuing saga of Thomson ATC311 chassis and Chipper Check.

  • From: "Damon" <DAMON101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 08:49:41 -0500

UH OH....Looks like Jim Myers might get a shot at this too.

    We've got R14705 at the very back of the Deflection board that toasted a
hole in the board. Also the possibility of having to adjust
geometry....which I hope is accessable thru the front keyboard WITHOUT
Chipper Check.......Probably not!

  And me with Win 95, wondering if CC Ver 1.8 is installed, or even if it IS
installable on that platform. Oh boy! Plug it in, wait 15 minutes for it to
come up.....

Now I've got to look over that ATC311 info a little more closely, I knew it
was coming.....

Any suggestions, like "Don't work on it!" would be appreciated before I
drive 45 miles back, with a Brand NEW Board.....

Damon Brunger
Telrad Electronic Services
Ft Wayne, IN 46815

Jim, remember writing this?

> > > Wish I had a few ATC311 chassis to work on,
> > looks like I'm missing all the
> > > fun! Is there some reason you can't just swap
> > the EEPROM from the original
> > > board to the new board to solve the geometry
> > and convergence problems?
> > >
> >
> **************************************************
> > > Jim Myers
> > > Since 1972
> > > Telrad Electronic Services Co.
> > > Fort Wayne, IN 46815
> > >

----- Original Message -----
From: "walter wood" <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 11:15 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: The continuing saga of Thomson ATC311 chassis and
Chipper Check.


> Perry, please let me know how you come out on this.
> I STILL have NOT resolved all the issues with mine.
> There is a bulletin out on the splitter, It's
> supposed to be replaced no matter what the set is
> in for.
> I don't know if the fly could take out the
> splitter, I doubt it, but it is a moot point
> anyway.
> Thanks
> Walter@Future Tech
> --- Electric Medic <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Friends;
> >
> > I just got one of these monsters in. The flyback
> > has a huge hole burned in
> > it. The set is under warranty, I was just
> > wondering if I might need the
> > splitter too. I ordered the whole deflection
> > board, thank goodness TCE lets
> > you replace it under warranty. Have any of you
> > seen the splitter cause
> > flyback problems. I have yet to see the splitter
> > bad on one of these,
> > however we have only had a couple of them in so
> > far. Will the PTK195
> > splitter work, I have tons of them from field
> > scrapped units. I forgot to
> > compare them at work today. Thanks.
> >
> > Perry Bower,  (EHEER) Electronic Home
> > Entertainment Equipment Repairer
> > Electric Medic
> > "It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
> > http://www.electricmedic.com
> > Free Electronic Screensaver:
> >
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: The continuing saga of
> > Thomson ATC311 chassis
> > and Chipper Check.
> >
> >
> > The way this set is made it could take all day to
> > find just one of the
> > eeproms.(Projection)   I think we are all going
> > to hate this TV esp. if you
> > have to service anything around the picture tubes
> > because you have to take
> > out all three at once to get to one tube, anode
> > wire , yoke, leaky
> > fluid.etc.  This chassis could lose RCA alot of
> > money,  I have aready had
> > one leaky( fluid) tube, and all the HV splitters
> > need to be replaced,  So
> > far I hate this set.
> > Phillip R Hull     STET
> >
> > > Wish I had a few ATC311 chassis to work on,
> > looks like I'm missing all the
> > > fun! Is there some reason you can't just swap
> > the EEPROM from the original
> > > board to the new board to solve the geometry
> > and convergence problems?
> > >
> >
> **************************************************
> > > Jim Myers
> > > Since 1972
> > > Telrad Electronic Services Co.
> > > Fort Wayne, IN 46815
> > >
> > *************************************************
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "walter wood" <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 2:53 PM
> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: The continuing saga
> > of Thomson ATC311 chassis
> > and
> > > Chipper Check.
> > >
> > >
> > > Just the one mentioned.
> > > However, the set appeared to have regulation
> > > problems and thomson tech support told me to
> > > replace the main board(sweep).
> > > When I did, of course, the geometry and
> > convergence
> > > were off.
> > > That's where I found the problems vith Chipper
> > > check.
> > > They are still not resolved.
> > > Just got a post from Wayne, he couldn't get his
> > > 311/CC to work either.
> > > One would think that they would have learned
> > > something from the CTC169 about splitters by
> > now.
> > > Walter
> > > --- "Phillip R. Hull" <phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > > I have one waiting for splitter also and it
> > has
> > > > burnt up 3 resistors, the
> > > > bulletin only mentions one burnt resistor.
> > How
> > > > many resistors did your unit
> > > > burn up??
> > > > Phillip R Hull     STET
> > > > phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > FAX 517--569-3075
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 2:43 PM
> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: The continuing saga
> > of
> > > > Thomson ATC311 chassis and
> > > > Chipper Check.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > all you need is crossover ethernet cable
> > and
> > > > chipper check software
> > > > > according to my rep Jim Muse
> > > > > I have not yet tried to use
> > > > > I have a ATC311 here now when hv splitter
> > comes
> > > > in will try chipper check
> > > > on
> > > > > it and post results
> > > > > Robert
> > > > > tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > H & H Electronics Inc
> > > > > Dallas, TX
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "walter wood" <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: "Tech Assist"
> > <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:20 AM
> > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] The continuing saga
> > of
> > > > Thomson ATC311 chassis and
> > > > > Chipper Check.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Well, I spoke by phone with Tom Bartz,
> > our
> > > > thomson
> > > > > > field rep yesterday.
> > > > > > He says that there is NO special adapter
> > > > needed for
> > > > > > the 311, and that he has done many of
> > them
> > > > with
> > > > > > only the crossover eithernet cable.
> > > > > > This agrees with one of the thomson tech
> > > > support
> > > > > > people I spoke with and all the manuals
> > that
> > > > I have
> > > > > > read.
> > > > > > It does NOT agree with the other thomson
> > tech
> > > > > > support person, who says that he
> > contacted
> > > > the
> > > > > > chipper check software writer, or
> > sencore,
> > > > both of
> > > > > > whom claim that the adapter is needed.
> > > > > > I am awaiting a call now from the
> > > > applications
> > > > > > engineer at sencore, who hopefully will
> > have
> > > > > > correct answers.
> > > > > > Has anyone ever used CC on the ATC311
> > > > chassis?
> > > > > > What operating system do you use, is you
> > were
> > > > > > successful??
> > > > > > I've tried a generic desktop with XP home
> >  no
> > > > go.
> > > > > > A Toshiba laptop with xp home     no go.
> > > > > > A Systemax laptop with xp pro     nope
> > > > > > and my toshiba, partitioned and a
> > stripped
> > > > version
> > > > > > of ME loaded. That doesn't work either.
> > > > > > The alternative is that $2,000 sencore hd
> > > > generator
> > > > > > and do it all manually.
> > > > > > Of course the manuals say that one cannot
> > do
> > > > that,
> > > > > > that chipper check MUST be used.
> > > > > > If I ever get a straight answer from
> > thomson
> > > > or
> > > > > > sencore I'll post it.
> > > > > > Walter
> > > > > >
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