[TechAssist] Re: Mitsubishi CS-2610R Chassis-UM2-B-C10R
- From: "Tel-Tek Electronics" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 07:17:12 -0500
OK.. we have a consensus...let's move on.
And somebody better not pull that word.."consensus" out to be
crucified..;-)
-Ed-
Ed Gaidies
Tel-Tek Electronics
Ontario-Canada
teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 5:07 AM
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Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Mitsubishi CS-2610R Chassis-UM2-B-C10R
Ed,
On this I would agree.
George
Afana Electronics
Moreno Valley, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tel-Tek Electronics" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 8:47 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Mitsubishi CS-2610R Chassis-UM2-B-C10R
> Gary had the right idea..no more lines. Either no Vertical deflection
or
> no Horizontal deflection.
> As far as getting that info from customers, I use descriptive sign
> language., or point to the screen and ask...this way...or that way.;-)
>
> -Ed-
>
> Ed Gaidies
> Tel-Tek Electronics
> Ontario-Canada
>
> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Al Gutz
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 11:20 PM
> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Mitsubishi CS-2610R Chassis-UM2-B-C10R
>
> Guess it all depends where you live. All during my years as a TV
> broadcasting engineer anyone you talked to in that field would agree
> with Ed, also any TV tech I talk to around here would agree with Ed.
> The only time I use your trems is talking to a customer who knows
> nothing about TVs.
>
> Al G
> Al's TV-Electronics
> Pembroke Ont.
> Canada
>
> hartstv@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >
> > Ed, I agree with the other techs.You started this by stating in your
> post
> > that by a vert line you mean a vertical sweep problem.That is very
> wrong &
> > you know it;very non-tech like.Fess up & admit your mistake,we all
> make
> > them....Stay warm & have a great weekend...best
> > regards...Don.....................
> > Don of HARTS-TVCR-ASC
> > 9 Robert St,Oromocto,NB,Canada,E2V3N2
> > Tel-506-357-9785,Fax-506-357-6010
> > hartstv@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ed Gaidies" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 4:53 PM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Mitsubishi CS-2610R Chassis-UM2-B-C10R
> >
> > > Well....look. Short of going thru 50 more emails, let's just say
no
> > > vertical deflection, or no horizontal deflection. Let's forget
about
> > > lines horizontal or vertical. Because if you read back your own
> > > description, you can see the confusion over something that should
be
> so
> > > simple.
> > > This was just a play on words, on the onset, but as usual the
whole
> > > thing takes on a life of it's own. For all concerned, this set has
> been
> > > fixed for hours, so lets move on.
> > >
> > > -Ed-
> > >
> > > Ed Gaidies
> > > Tel-Tek Electronics.
> > > Ontario-Canada
> > >
> > > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George
> > > Sent: January 9, 2004 3:40 PM
> > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Mitsubishi CS-2610R Chassis-UM2-B-C10R
> > >
> > > Ed,
> > >
> > > Let's get it right from a tech's view.
> > > The newer techs are having a hard time getting their jargon
> straight,
> > > making
> > > it at times hard to know what circuit they are talking about
> horizontal
> > > or
> > > vertical? There is a proper term for each in describing the
symptom.
> > > A horizontal line results from the loss of vertical sweep with
> > > horizontal
> > > sweep working (hence vertical problem).
> > > A vertical line results from the loss of horizontal sweep with
> vertical
> > > sweep working (hence horizontal problem).
> > > Therefore a vertical line cannot be used to describe the result of
a
> > > vertical problem, this is very non-tech.
> > > I hope this clarifies and reduces some of the misconceptions.
> > >
> > > George
> > > Afana Electronics
> > > Moreno Valley, CA
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tel-Tek Electronics" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 5:20 AM
> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Mitsubishi CS-2610R Chassis-UM2-B-C10R
> > >
> > >
> > > > Not going to go into the line thing again, although we should
get
> this
> > > > ironed out amongst the Technicians. When I say Vertical Line, I
> mean a
> > > > line that is created by no Vertical deflection. This is was sets
> us
> > > > above non- techs. After all...Doctors don't always say what they
> > > > mean.;-)
> > > > The problem I was having, was a combination of a (new) defective
> > > > LA7838 and C3C2..100ufd/35 volts from pin 1 of Audio O/P IC.
> > > >
> > > > -Ed-
> > > >
> > > > Ed Gaidies
> > > > Tel-Tek Electronics
> > > > Ontario-Canada
> > > >
> > > > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > > > support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 6:03 PM
> > > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Mitsubishi CS-2610R Chassis-UM2-B-C10R
> > > >
> > > > Ed.
> > > > Are you saying you have a horizontal line?
> > > > From Tech Repair CD:
> > > > MITSUBISHI\CS2610R\Vertical Lack Of Vertical Sweep\\\\Check
> > > > Components Off Pin #3 Of Flyback
> > > > Transformer For Open.\R558* D553* L502* R521. Pcb-Main\\\\\\\
> > > >
> > > > MITSUBISHI\CS2610RC\Vertical No Vertical Sweep\\\\Suspect
Open
> > > > Capacitor C480 (0.01uf 50v). Located
> > > > On Pcb-Main At\Ic401 Pin 3.\\\\\\\
> > > >
> > > > Nothing on your motorboating, but I did see some references to
> glue
> > > > becoming conductive...if you wish to
> > > > check that out.
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Dougherty
> > > > Intrepid Video TV/VCR
> > > > 263 S Front St
> > > > Steelton PA 17113
> > > > fax...717-564-4952
> > > > www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Ed Gaidies" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: "TechAssist" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 12:13 PM
> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Mitsubishi CS-2610R Chassis-UM2-B-C10R
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Have this set on the bench. Originally thought it was just a
> Vertical
> > > > Problem, But ater changing IC (LA7838) and som caps in the
> vertical,
> > > > same problem. But after plugging speakers back in, all I have is
a
> > > Line
> > > > (Vert/running left to right/or right to left) just so we don't
get
> > > into
> > > > a discussion about lines. But also Motorboating in the audio,
> pretty
> > > > fast, about 2 X per second. Have HV.
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas. Checked 33V line down to about 31V. But seems OK.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > -Ed-
> > > >
> > > > Ed Gaidies
> > > > Tel-Tek Electronics.
> > > > Ontario-Canada
> > > >
> > > > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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