[TechAssist] Re: HDTV signal generator discussion
- From: Gary McCartney <gary@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:53:03 -0400
Looks like a good program. Now likely we should be able to take the
JPG's off this CD and make our own SVCD disk to play in a DVD player and
display the test patterns directly on a TV set. Only hitch I can think
of is if the manufacturer of the test pattern CD has encrypted the files
so that the test patterns can not be extracted.
Gary McCartney
McCartney Electronics
7134 Fife Rd, RR 7
Guelph Ontario Canada N1H 6J4
Fax: (519)821-1530
email: gary (at) number63.ca
Wayne Vanaman wrote:
>
> $20?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2539216851&category=25407
>
> Wayne Vanaman
> Omega Electronics
> 6904 W Fairfield Dr
> Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310
>
> Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com
>
> 850-456-5995 voice
> 850-458-6369 fax
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Philip Bader" <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:55 PM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV signal generator discussion
>
> > Not to keep flogging a dead horse,but it would be nice if someone had
> > some test patterns they could upload to the techassist site for
> > download,and we could burn a VCD for DVD use as a generator. I've
> > scavanged sites for beta versions of a program, but none so far.
> > Phil Bader
> >
> > Wayne Vanaman wrote:
> > >
> > > I have been considering purchasing an ATSC tuner card for a computer.
> > > Thirty min. of HD takes about 4Gb, which would fill a DVD. Something is
> > > going to change soon when people realize they can not record HD.
> > >
> > > As for an HDTV gen, I am late gettin in on this one, though I have
> posted
> > > this before. I have the Quantum Data 608 generator. This is very
> similar
> > > to the Sencore, in fact Quantum Data makes the units for Sencore. The
> > > difference is in the test patterns. Quantum Data is a company I will
> never
> > > buy from again. A couple of years ago Thomson had an agreement with
> > > Quantum, ASCs could purchase a 600 series generator and a CS1
> chromaticity
> > > head and a very good discount, much less than either one from Sencore,
> and I
> > > bit. The catch now is that NO support is available, none of the
> > > distributors will sell any accessories (imagine that!) to you unless you
> > > bought it from them, and the factory will not sell accessories to you.
> > > Well, all I wanted was the cable from the SVGA connection to the
> component
> > > video. As it turns out the standard cable available with the five BNC
> > > connectors to the SVGA plug is just fine.
> > >
> > > I have not had any problems with the equipment, in fact I think they are
> > > very good--but no support...$$..??
> > >
> > > Wayne Vanaman
> > > Omega Electronics
> > > 6904 W Fairfield Dr
> > > Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310
> > >
> > > Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com
> > >
> > > 850-456-5995 voice
> > > 850-458-6369 fax
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Leonard G. Caillouet" <lcaillo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:32 AM
> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV signal generator discussion
> > >
> > > > Yes, that is one of the suggestions that I made. They are not
> currently
> > > > available. You can use a progressive scan player outputting 480p, and
> > > that
> > > > helps in troubleshooting some sets, but there are no HD DVDs in this
> > > country
> > > > yet. Maybe next year.
> > > >
> > > > Leonard G. Caillouet
> > > > Service Manager
> > > > Electronics World
> > > > Gainesville, FL
> > > > 352-332-5608
> > > > 352-332-5668 (fax)
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Philip Bader" <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:31 AM
> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV signal generator discussion
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Leonard, Couldn't you use a HDTV type DVD player with the DVD Test
> Disc
> > > > > patterns we have been discussing to generate a HDTV signal with
> > > > > patterns?
> > > > > I assume the HDTV DVD would soon become reasonably priced.This would
> be
> > > > > a good HDTV signal source for testing without an expensive sig-gen..
> > > > > Phil Bader
> > > > >
> > > > > Leonard Caillouet wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Last night (June 19, 2003) there was a discussion in the chat room
> > > about
> > > > > > HDTV signal generators. Basically, most techs here seem to be
> waiting
> > > > until
> > > > > > there is a greater need and for prices to drop. Everyone seems to
> > > have
> > > > a
> > > > > > hard time justifying new test equipment in such tight times. Most
> of
> > > us
> > > > are
> > > > > > getting by without HD generators for now. The possibilities
> discussed
> > > > > > included the Sencore, Tek, Leader but all are pretty pricy. The
> > > Sencore
> > > > > > seems to be pretty well thought out for our purposes but I find a
> > > > serious
> > > > > > limitation in not having IEE1394 and DTV outputs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The CMM generator was mentioned and is very inexpensive and
> probably
> > > the
> > > > > > best, cheapest way for now to get easy access to HD signals.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Other possibilities are HD PC cards which I have links to below.
> This
> > > > is a
> > > > > > less expensive option but the bulk of a PC makes it impractical
> for
> > > > field
> > > > > > service, as none of these are useful with a notebook PC.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > None of these have RF generation of ATSC signals, just component
> or
> > > RGB
> > > > > > signals. Sencore does have this available in other units,
> however. I
> > > > > > suspect that most of the digital tuners will not be field serviced
> for
> > > > quite
> > > > > > some time, if ever, so this is not likely a factor.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another coming technology that will impact our decisions is HD
> DVD.
> > > > Some of
> > > > > > these are expected to hit the US market next year. I have heard
> they
> > > > are
> > > > > > available in Japan now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For now I will continue to use NTSC signals and progressive scan
> DVDs
> > > > and
> > > > > > outputs from HD sat receivers for signal sources. The new digital
> > > Video
> > > > > > Essentials DVD is supposed to be out by August and has a great set
> of
> > > > > > patterns on it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.sencore.com/products/vp300.htm
> > > > > > http://www.cmmchecker.com/htdocs/checkertvhd.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.pc-dtv.com/homepage.html
> > > > > > http://www.telemann.com/products/dtv200.html
> > > > > > http://www.hdtv-authority.com/myhd_1.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Leonard Caillouet
> > > > > > Electronics World
> > > > > > Gainesville, FL
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
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