[TechAssist] Re: HDTV signal generator discussion
- From: "Wayne Vanaman" <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:24:05 -0500
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Wayne Vanaman
Omega Electronics
6904 W Fairfield Dr
Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip Bader" <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:55 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV signal generator discussion
> Not to keep flogging a dead horse,but it would be nice if someone had
> some test patterns they could upload to the techassist site for
> download,and we could burn a VCD for DVD use as a generator. I've
> scavanged sites for beta versions of a program, but none so far.
> Phil Bader
>
> Wayne Vanaman wrote:
> >
> > I have been considering purchasing an ATSC tuner card for a computer.
> > Thirty min. of HD takes about 4Gb, which would fill a DVD. Something is
> > going to change soon when people realize they can not record HD.
> >
> > As for an HDTV gen, I am late gettin in on this one, though I have
posted
> > this before. I have the Quantum Data 608 generator. This is very
similar
> > to the Sencore, in fact Quantum Data makes the units for Sencore. The
> > difference is in the test patterns. Quantum Data is a company I will
never
> > buy from again. A couple of years ago Thomson had an agreement with
> > Quantum, ASCs could purchase a 600 series generator and a CS1
chromaticity
> > head and a very good discount, much less than either one from Sencore,
and I
> > bit. The catch now is that NO support is available, none of the
> > distributors will sell any accessories (imagine that!) to you unless you
> > bought it from them, and the factory will not sell accessories to you.
> > Well, all I wanted was the cable from the SVGA connection to the
component
> > video. As it turns out the standard cable available with the five BNC
> > connectors to the SVGA plug is just fine.
> >
> > I have not had any problems with the equipment, in fact I think they are
> > very good--but no support...$$..??
> >
> > Wayne Vanaman
> > Omega Electronics
> > 6904 W Fairfield Dr
> > Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310
> >
> > Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com
> >
> > 850-456-5995 voice
> > 850-458-6369 fax
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Leonard G. Caillouet" <lcaillo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:32 AM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV signal generator discussion
> >
> > > Yes, that is one of the suggestions that I made. They are not
currently
> > > available. You can use a progressive scan player outputting 480p, and
> > that
> > > helps in troubleshooting some sets, but there are no HD DVDs in this
> > country
> > > yet. Maybe next year.
> > >
> > > Leonard G. Caillouet
> > > Service Manager
> > > Electronics World
> > > Gainesville, FL
> > > 352-332-5608
> > > 352-332-5668 (fax)
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Philip Bader" <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:31 AM
> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV signal generator discussion
> > >
> > >
> > > > Leonard, Couldn't you use a HDTV type DVD player with the DVD Test
Disc
> > > > patterns we have been discussing to generate a HDTV signal with
> > > > patterns?
> > > > I assume the HDTV DVD would soon become reasonably priced.This would
be
> > > > a good HDTV signal source for testing without an expensive sig-gen..
> > > > Phil Bader
> > > >
> > > > Leonard Caillouet wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Last night (June 19, 2003) there was a discussion in the chat room
> > about
> > > > > HDTV signal generators. Basically, most techs here seem to be
waiting
> > > until
> > > > > there is a greater need and for prices to drop. Everyone seems to
> > have
> > > a
> > > > > hard time justifying new test equipment in such tight times. Most
of
> > us
> > > are
> > > > > getting by without HD generators for now. The possibilities
discussed
> > > > > included the Sencore, Tek, Leader but all are pretty pricy. The
> > Sencore
> > > > > seems to be pretty well thought out for our purposes but I find a
> > > serious
> > > > > limitation in not having IEE1394 and DTV outputs.
> > > > >
> > > > > The CMM generator was mentioned and is very inexpensive and
probably
> > the
> > > > > best, cheapest way for now to get easy access to HD signals.
> > > > >
> > > > > Other possibilities are HD PC cards which I have links to below.
This
> > > is a
> > > > > less expensive option but the bulk of a PC makes it impractical
for
> > > field
> > > > > service, as none of these are useful with a notebook PC.
> > > > >
> > > > > None of these have RF generation of ATSC signals, just component
or
> > RGB
> > > > > signals. Sencore does have this available in other units,
however. I
> > > > > suspect that most of the digital tuners will not be field serviced
for
> > > quite
> > > > > some time, if ever, so this is not likely a factor.
> > > > >
> > > > > Another coming technology that will impact our decisions is HD
DVD.
> > > Some of
> > > > > these are expected to hit the US market next year. I have heard
they
> > > are
> > > > > available in Japan now.
> > > > >
> > > > > For now I will continue to use NTSC signals and progressive scan
DVDs
> > > and
> > > > > outputs from HD sat receivers for signal sources. The new digital
> > Video
> > > > > Essentials DVD is supposed to be out by August and has a great set
of
> > > > > patterns on it.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.sencore.com/products/vp300.htm
> > > > > http://www.cmmchecker.com/htdocs/checkertvhd.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.pc-dtv.com/homepage.html
> > > > > http://www.telemann.com/products/dtv200.html
> > > > > http://www.hdtv-authority.com/myhd_1.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > Leonard Caillouet
> > > > > Electronics World
> > > > > Gainesville, FL
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
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