[TechAssist] Re: HDTV signal generator discussion
- From: Philip Bader <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:46:42 -0400
Cool. I was thinking of burning a pattern (jpg,gif, etc)to a CD-R as a
VCD that would probably work on the DVD player in my rack.
Phil Bader
tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> Ask and recieve Phil,
> go to members download and look under "audio" for HB_640X.zip, HB_1024X.zip,
> HB_1280X.zip and Readme.txt under "programs"
> Also under "programs" Vid 12.zip
> These are all dos programs and maybe someone could take patterns and burn to
> DVD but they are good to use on computer for monitor and LCD projection
> alignment.
> hth
> Robert
> tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> H & H Electronics Inc
> Dallas, TX
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Philip Bader" <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:55 PM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV signal generator discussion
>
> > Not to keep flogging a dead horse,but it would be nice if someone had
> > some test patterns they could upload to the techassist site for
> > download,and we could burn a VCD for DVD use as a generator. I've
> > scavanged sites for beta versions of a program, but none so far.
> > Phil Bader
> >
> > Wayne Vanaman wrote:
> > >
> > > I have been considering purchasing an ATSC tuner card for a computer.
> > > Thirty min. of HD takes about 4Gb, which would fill a DVD. Something is
> > > going to change soon when people realize they can not record HD.
> > >
> > > As for an HDTV gen, I am late gettin in on this one, though I have
> posted
> > > this before. I have the Quantum Data 608 generator. This is very
> similar
> > > to the Sencore, in fact Quantum Data makes the units for Sencore. The
> > > difference is in the test patterns. Quantum Data is a company I will
> never
> > > buy from again. A couple of years ago Thomson had an agreement with
> > > Quantum, ASCs could purchase a 600 series generator and a CS1
> chromaticity
> > > head and a very good discount, much less than either one from Sencore,
> and I
> > > bit. The catch now is that NO support is available, none of the
> > > distributors will sell any accessories (imagine that!) to you unless you
> > > bought it from them, and the factory will not sell accessories to you.
> > > Well, all I wanted was the cable from the SVGA connection to the
> component
> > > video. As it turns out the standard cable available with the five BNC
> > > connectors to the SVGA plug is just fine.
> > >
> > > I have not had any problems with the equipment, in fact I think they are
> > > very good--but no support...$$..??
> > >
> > > Wayne Vanaman
> > > Omega Electronics
> > > 6904 W Fairfield Dr
> > > Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310
> > >
> > > Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com
> > >
> > > 850-456-5995 voice
> > > 850-458-6369 fax
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Leonard G. Caillouet" <lcaillo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:32 AM
> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV signal generator discussion
> > >
> > > > Yes, that is one of the suggestions that I made. They are not
> currently
> > > > available. You can use a progressive scan player outputting 480p, and
> > > that
> > > > helps in troubleshooting some sets, but there are no HD DVDs in this
> > > country
> > > > yet. Maybe next year.
> > > >
> > > > Leonard G. Caillouet
> > > > Service Manager
> > > > Electronics World
> > > > Gainesville, FL
> > > > 352-332-5608
> > > > 352-332-5668 (fax)
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Philip Bader" <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:31 AM
> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV signal generator discussion
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Leonard, Couldn't you use a HDTV type DVD player with the DVD Test
> Disc
> > > > > patterns we have been discussing to generate a HDTV signal with
> > > > > patterns?
> > > > > I assume the HDTV DVD would soon become reasonably priced.This would
> be
> > > > > a good HDTV signal source for testing without an expensive sig-gen..
> > > > > Phil Bader
> > > > >
> > > > > Leonard Caillouet wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Last night (June 19, 2003) there was a discussion in the chat room
> > > about
> > > > > > HDTV signal generators. Basically, most techs here seem to be
> waiting
> > > > until
> > > > > > there is a greater need and for prices to drop. Everyone seems to
> > > have
> > > > a
> > > > > > hard time justifying new test equipment in such tight times. Most
> of
> > > us
> > > > are
> > > > > > getting by without HD generators for now. The possibilities
> discussed
> > > > > > included the Sencore, Tek, Leader but all are pretty pricy. The
> > > Sencore
> > > > > > seems to be pretty well thought out for our purposes but I find a
> > > > serious
> > > > > > limitation in not having IEE1394 and DTV outputs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The CMM generator was mentioned and is very inexpensive and
> probably
> > > the
> > > > > > best, cheapest way for now to get easy access to HD signals.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Other possibilities are HD PC cards which I have links to below.
> This
> > > > is a
> > > > > > less expensive option but the bulk of a PC makes it impractical
> for
> > > > field
> > > > > > service, as none of these are useful with a notebook PC.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > None of these have RF generation of ATSC signals, just component
> or
> > > RGB
> > > > > > signals. Sencore does have this available in other units,
> however. I
> > > > > > suspect that most of the digital tuners will not be field serviced
> for
> > > > quite
> > > > > > some time, if ever, so this is not likely a factor.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another coming technology that will impact our decisions is HD
> DVD.
> > > > Some of
> > > > > > these are expected to hit the US market next year. I have heard
> they
> > > > are
> > > > > > available in Japan now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For now I will continue to use NTSC signals and progressive scan
> DVDs
> > > > and
> > > > > > outputs from HD sat receivers for signal sources. The new digital
> > > Video
> > > > > > Essentials DVD is supposed to be out by August and has a great set
> of
> > > > > > patterns on it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.sencore.com/products/vp300.htm
> > > > > > http://www.cmmchecker.com/htdocs/checkertvhd.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.pc-dtv.com/homepage.html
> > > > > > http://www.telemann.com/products/dtv200.html
> > > > > > http://www.hdtv-authority.com/myhd_1.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Leonard Caillouet
> > > > > > Electronics World
> > > > > > Gainesville, FL
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
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