[TechAssist] Re: HDTV signal generator discussion
- From: Philip Bader <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:55:51 -0400
Not to keep flogging a dead horse,but it would be nice if someone had
some test patterns they could upload to the techassist site for
download,and we could burn a VCD for DVD use as a generator. I've
scavanged sites for beta versions of a program, but none so far.
Phil Bader
Wayne Vanaman wrote:
>
> I have been considering purchasing an ATSC tuner card for a computer.
> Thirty min. of HD takes about 4Gb, which would fill a DVD. Something is
> going to change soon when people realize they can not record HD.
>
> As for an HDTV gen, I am late gettin in on this one, though I have posted
> this before. I have the Quantum Data 608 generator. This is very similar
> to the Sencore, in fact Quantum Data makes the units for Sencore. The
> difference is in the test patterns. Quantum Data is a company I will never
> buy from again. A couple of years ago Thomson had an agreement with
> Quantum, ASCs could purchase a 600 series generator and a CS1 chromaticity
> head and a very good discount, much less than either one from Sencore, and I
> bit. The catch now is that NO support is available, none of the
> distributors will sell any accessories (imagine that!) to you unless you
> bought it from them, and the factory will not sell accessories to you.
> Well, all I wanted was the cable from the SVGA connection to the component
> video. As it turns out the standard cable available with the five BNC
> connectors to the SVGA plug is just fine.
>
> I have not had any problems with the equipment, in fact I think they are
> very good--but no support...$$..??
>
> Wayne Vanaman
> Omega Electronics
> 6904 W Fairfield Dr
> Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310
>
> Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com
>
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> 850-458-6369 fax
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leonard G. Caillouet" <lcaillo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:32 AM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV signal generator discussion
>
> > Yes, that is one of the suggestions that I made. They are not currently
> > available. You can use a progressive scan player outputting 480p, and
> that
> > helps in troubleshooting some sets, but there are no HD DVDs in this
> country
> > yet. Maybe next year.
> >
> > Leonard G. Caillouet
> > Service Manager
> > Electronics World
> > Gainesville, FL
> > 352-332-5608
> > 352-332-5668 (fax)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Philip Bader" <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:31 AM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: HDTV signal generator discussion
> >
> >
> > > Leonard, Couldn't you use a HDTV type DVD player with the DVD Test Disc
> > > patterns we have been discussing to generate a HDTV signal with
> > > patterns?
> > > I assume the HDTV DVD would soon become reasonably priced.This would be
> > > a good HDTV signal source for testing without an expensive sig-gen..
> > > Phil Bader
> > >
> > > Leonard Caillouet wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Last night (June 19, 2003) there was a discussion in the chat room
> about
> > > > HDTV signal generators. Basically, most techs here seem to be waiting
> > until
> > > > there is a greater need and for prices to drop. Everyone seems to
> have
> > a
> > > > hard time justifying new test equipment in such tight times. Most of
> us
> > are
> > > > getting by without HD generators for now. The possibilities discussed
> > > > included the Sencore, Tek, Leader but all are pretty pricy. The
> Sencore
> > > > seems to be pretty well thought out for our purposes but I find a
> > serious
> > > > limitation in not having IEE1394 and DTV outputs.
> > > >
> > > > The CMM generator was mentioned and is very inexpensive and probably
> the
> > > > best, cheapest way for now to get easy access to HD signals.
> > > >
> > > > Other possibilities are HD PC cards which I have links to below. This
> > is a
> > > > less expensive option but the bulk of a PC makes it impractical for
> > field
> > > > service, as none of these are useful with a notebook PC.
> > > >
> > > > None of these have RF generation of ATSC signals, just component or
> RGB
> > > > signals. Sencore does have this available in other units, however. I
> > > > suspect that most of the digital tuners will not be field serviced for
> > quite
> > > > some time, if ever, so this is not likely a factor.
> > > >
> > > > Another coming technology that will impact our decisions is HD DVD.
> > Some of
> > > > these are expected to hit the US market next year. I have heard they
> > are
> > > > available in Japan now.
> > > >
> > > > For now I will continue to use NTSC signals and progressive scan DVDs
> > and
> > > > outputs from HD sat receivers for signal sources. The new digital
> Video
> > > > Essentials DVD is supposed to be out by August and has a great set of
> > > > patterns on it.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.sencore.com/products/vp300.htm
> > > > http://www.cmmchecker.com/htdocs/checkertvhd.htm
> > > >
> > > > http://www.pc-dtv.com/homepage.html
> > > > http://www.telemann.com/products/dtv200.html
> > > > http://www.hdtv-authority.com/myhd_1.htm
> > > >
> > > > Leonard Caillouet
> > > > Electronics World
> > > > Gainesville, FL
> > > >
> > > >
> >
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