Without starting the "dreaded long thread" subject, just curious as to what the average repair bill comes to for VCRs now adays. I still collect a $25.00 up front fee which applies to filan approved bill. Mine seem to range from $49.00 to $90.00 I get people with hi end Sonys,etc that love them and will spend. And how you reason with the customer. Just ask'in. Phil Bader -- Philip Bader Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976) 3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880 Fax (863) 299-8821 email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/