[tcb] Re: air in the mc
- From: Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:22:06 -0500
every FLAPS store go to says they can't get one for my bus. A new one cost $200
at bus-boys.com and about 150 at roy rogers. guess i'll be going to roy rogers
in the next month to get a new one.
From: sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Re: air in the mc
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:04:37 -0500
You don't have any time.Fix your brakes NOW! If you don't
the fire will have been minor.If you don't have brake assist the mc should
be around 40 bucks at your FLAPS.I just bought one for a bug for 30
bucks.
----- Original Message -----
From:
Brian Denning
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 6:35
AM
Subject: [tcb] Re: air in the mc
anybod got a good new mc they'd sell me for
cheap??
apparently mine is bad
i
have driven the bus like this since august...how long do i have?
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:46:08 -0700
From: bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject:
[tcb] Re: air in the mc
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
It sounds to me
like you have a leak in the MC. Fluid going past the piston (which it
is not supposed to do) which means a new master cylinder.
Brian
Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
ok, the mastercylinder has 3 lines coming out of it one that goes to the
rear one for the left front and one for the right front. at the
mastercylinder i bled all air out of it...there was lots in the line that
went to the rear of the bus and some that went to the driverside front.
so
i bled all the air out at the MC then i went to the right rear. by i, i
mean a friend of mine. we did the ol' tube in a bottle of fluid trick.
got
some small bubbles out of the right rear, next we went to the left
rear, man oh man there were some bubbles after we pumped it two or three
times. then we went to the right front, it took forever to get to fluid
(keep in mind i have already bled everything 4 times before this point)
then we went to the driverside front. got air.
pedal then
worked but not impressive. so we decided to pressure bleed the system at
this point pump, pump pump HOLD!!! right rear spit out air twice then
solid fluid shot out like a water cannon. pump pump pump HOLD!!! left
rear
did the same. moved to the right front it took 5 tries to get the final
air out of it. then we moved to the right side. fluid came out like an
old
man trying to pee, slow and it dribbled for a bit. we did that for a
bit and then all of the sudden the fluid shot out so strong it hit
the other side. tightened it up
the brakes are great,
they don't give way but there is still a slight problem, if i come on
strong at first they work great. i even tested them and managed to get
all
four wheels to lock up, if i eas on them the pedal goes down about half
way till it works, and if i just gently push it in it still goes to the
floor.
what do ya'll think? mastercylinder needs replaced or
still some air hidden somewhere? i am buying the appropriate tool from
harbor freight this weekend and will try it again but i am leaning
towards
a mastercylinder. like a friend once told me "rebuilds only last so
long"
> From: sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To:
tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tcb] Re: air in the mc
> Date:
Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:49:27 -0500
>
> You also can use a hand
vac pump and suck the fluid thru the system so
> pressure does not
have to be applied to to the master cyl.
> ----- Original Message
-----
> From: "Gerald V. Livingston II"
<gerald.tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To:
<tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:31
PM
> Subject: [tcb] Re: air in the mc
>
>
> >
I've used it. It only needs to be at about 10 PSI. Works GREAT. Just have
> > to make sure the reservoir stays full and pump it back up to
10PSI every
> > once in a while. Because it's forcing the fluid
into the M/C at the normal
> > inlet locations it helps "grab"
the air bubbles with the moving fluid and
> > pulls them out
into the lines.
> >
> > Bleed the whole system in under
30 minutes with no pedal pumper helping
> > you and complaining
he whole time. ;-)
> >
> > G2
> >
> >
Brian Denning wrote:
> >> i'm afraid it would blow the fill
line off the resevoir.
> >>
> >> > Date: Mon,
10 Mar 2008 14:50:57 -0500
> >> > From:
eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>> > Subject: [tcb] Re: air in the mc
> >>
>
> >> > Have you actually used this power
bleeder?
> >> > Do they work well?
> >>
>
> >> >
> >> > Gerald V. Livingston II
wrote:
> >> > > Brian Denning wrote:
> >>
> >> that is the concensus on the master cylinder. any tricks to
> >> bleeding
> >> > >> it with it
installed? just unhook the hose and pump away or what?
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >>
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> >> >
>
> >> > > I've read the other replies. If it is air
in the M/C then you either
> >> > > have to pull the M/C
and bench bleed it OR go ahead and take it to a
> >> > >
shop that has a motorized vacuum bleeder and let them do it.
>
>> > >
> >> > > You may also be able to
clear it by buying and using a Motive Power
> >> > >
Bleeder:
> >> > >
> >> > >
>
>>
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>
>> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
That's a nice tool to have available anyway. Makes bleeding brakes
> >> EASY!
> >> > >
> >> >
> Gravity bleeding won't get a bubble sitting at the top of the
M/C.
> >> > >
> >> > > Gerals
>
>> > >
> >> > >
> >>
>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
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