[tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay... can it be done?
- From: Edward Maikranz <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:09:27 -0600
Arrrrgh!!!!
Here is a link with photos fer ye land-lubbers!!!
http://messa.us/VW_Bus/Main_Heater_Tube.html
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 4:59 PM, w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> If you put anything with the term "bilge" on a bus we'll then start to say
> "where's yer ballast matey! Yer jib isn't cut well at all ya landlubber..
> Arrrgh"
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Edward Maikranz <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Actually its a bilge blower not a pump. they are designed to blow fumes
>> out of the bilge area.
>> The bilge blower is switched on to ventilate before starting the engine.
>> Ed
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Neil <nbmdude@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> I wuz wonderin' about the bilge pump...they're designed to pump water not
>>> air...would there be an overheatin' issue within the pump? I've worked
>>> around sump pumps that got pretty warm, but the water kept them from gettin'
>>> too hot...jus' wonderin'...
>>>
>>> --- On Mon, 12/14/09, James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> > From: James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay... can it be done?
>>> > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 8:06 AM
>>> > Well I
>>> > spent a couple of hours insulating the front of the Bus with
>>> > the solar bubble wrap, original fiber glass insulation and
>>> > the foil backed butyl rubber sheets for sound deadening so I
>>> > didn't get a chance to try the fan installation
>>> > yet.
>>> > Lowes also has a small bag of fiber glass
>>> > insulation pretty cheap for small places like under the
>>> > dash. I had some serious drafts under there now they are
>>> > gone
>>> > I did find that a 12v computer fan is 3.75
>>> > inches and is a bit cheaper than the bilge fan. Not sure
>>> > which one I'm gonna use yet.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > --- On Sat, 12/12/09, Will
>>> > <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > From: Will <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay...
>>> > can it be done?
>>>
>>> > To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
>>> > <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 10:49 PM
>>> >
>>> > That's because of the bullet holes.
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -- Sent from my
>>> > Palm Pre
>>> > Neil wrote:
>>> >
>>> > True! Believe me, mine is too well venilated!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --- On Sat, 12/12/09, Edward Maikranz
>>> > <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > From: Edward Maikranz <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >
>>> > > Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay... can it be
>>> > done?
>>> >
>>> > > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >
>>> > > Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 1:58 PM
>>> >
>>> > > One thing to remember when burning propane
>>> >
>>> > > in a vehicle is the amount of water vapor produced.
>>> > Just
>>> >
>>> > > another reason to make sure you are well ventilated
>>> > when
>>> >
>>> > > doing so, or you may find yourself with an indoor rain
>>> >
>>> > > forest!
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > Ed
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:48 PM,
>>> >
>>> > > Neil <nbmdude@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >
>>> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > Mine is somewhat similar to Mike's...its a
>>> > ProCat...the
>>> >
>>> > > battery powered fan is weak, but it does put out
>>> > enough heat
>>> >
>>> > > to keep ya toasty, drivin' or sleepin'...
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Mike Hayes
>>> > <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >
>>> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > From: Mike Hayes <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay... can it
>>> > be
>>> >
>>> > > done?
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 8:06 PM
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > This is what I use when it gets below
>>> > freezing. You
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > just have to crack a window. I bungee cord
>>> > it
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > under the dash so it doesn't fall over.
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > >
>>> >
>>> http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200307957_200307957
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > James Dwan wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > I think I'll mount it at the front of
>>> > the
>>> >
>>> > > heater tube.
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > I called West Marine by my house and they have
>>> > the
>>> >
>>> > > 4" for
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > $35. After X-mas decorating tonight I'm gonna
>>> >
>>> > > finish
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > wrapping the front tubes, insulate the front skin
>>> > blow
>>> >
>>> > > out
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > the whole thing with compressed air and install
>>> > it.
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > If I don't have too much egg nog...
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > --- On *Fri, 12/11/09, Denis Dodson
>>> > /<coocoo@xxxxxxx>/*
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > From: Denis Dodson
>>> > <coocoo@xxxxxxx>
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > Subject: [tcb] Re:
>>> > Heat in a
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > late Bay... can it be done?
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > To:
>>> > tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > Date: Friday,
>>> > December 11,
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > 2009, 1:07 PM
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > James, I have a Fan
>>> > from some
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > guys that advertise in Hot VW. You
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > have to cut in to
>>> > the heating
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > channel and put an in-line fan in
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > there. West Marine,
>>> > or any
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > boat supplier has them as bilge fans.
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > You need to mount it
>>> > pretty
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > far forward or they will melt. And
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > yes, they are noisy,
>>> > but they
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > blow really good strong hot air. I
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > have a divider
>>> > behind my seat
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > and it will get too hot in my bus to
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > run it non stop. I
>>> > have
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > friends up here who have done it in a Bay
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > and they were amazed
>>> > how much
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > heat it gives off.
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > Do it today!
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > *From:*
>>> > tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > *On Behalf Of *James
>>> > Dwan
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > *Sent:* Friday,
>>> > December 11,
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > 2009 12:16 PM
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > *To:*
>>> > tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > *Subject:* [tcb] Re:
>>> > Heat in a
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > late Bay... can it be done?
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > Thats a lot more
>>> > expensive!
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > I have read that the
>>> > plastic
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > tends to melt on those and they are
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > loud. Someone
>>> > suggested this:
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> >
>>> http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/itemDetailsRender.shtml?ItemId=1611630889
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > But I have no idea
>>> > how I would
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > mount it inline. Any ideas?
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > --- On *Fri,
>>> > 12/11/09, Dan
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > Martin /<danandkatrinamartin@xxxxxxx>/*
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > From: Dan Martin
>>> > <danandkatrinamartin@xxxxxxx>
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > Subject: [tcb] Re:
>>> > Heat in a
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > late Bay... can it be done?
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > To:
>>> > tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > Date: Friday,
>>> > December 11,
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > 2009, 11:15 AM
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> > http://www.vwheaters.com/
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > (bilge blower)
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > On Dec 11, 2009, at
>>> > 10:36 AM,
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > James Dwan wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > > Yeah the window
>>> > felts
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > that are on there allow cold air in and
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > the jalousies do
>>> > too. What is
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > the correct way to replace the
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > felts? Start in the
>>> > corner or
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > at the vent window?
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > > Would a bilge
>>> > blower be
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > better? Cheaper? There is a West Marine
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > closer than a
>>> > Fry's.
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > > --- On Fri,
>>> > 12/11/09,
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > Edward Maikranz <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > > From: Edward
>>> > Maikranz
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > > Subject: [tcb]
>>> > Re: Heat
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > in a late Bay... can it be done?
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > > To:
>>> > tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > > Date: Friday,
>>> > December
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > 11, 2009, 10:22 AM
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > > A bilge blower
>>> > from a
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > boat mounted in the tube will really make
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > a difference.
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > > Also, the best
>>> > thing to
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > do to a bay to stay warm is to really
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > work on sealing it
>>> > up and
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > keeping the cold air out.
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > > Ed Maikranz
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > > On Fri, Dec 11,
>>> > 2009 at
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > 10:16 AM, James Dwan
>>>
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > >
>>> > <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > > So I plan on
>>> > taking the
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > family to the Prairie Lights next
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > weekend (should be
>>> > about 3 hrs
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > in the Bus) then up to Grandma's on
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > OK for X-mas so i
>>> > need a
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > heating solution.
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > > So far I have
>>> > wrapped the
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > main tube with solar bubble wrap
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > twice, tightened the
>>> > clasps
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > around the heater blower motor where
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > they attach to the
>>> > tubes.
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > > I was planning
>>> > on
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > rebuilding the accordion tubes but that
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > involves ordering
>>> > parts and
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > dealing with asbestos rings. Which is
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > no big deal but I
>>> > have a
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > another idea.
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > > Why not mount 2
>>> > computer
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > fans (12v) to either end of the tunnel
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > to push more air?
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > > Has anyone
>>> > tried this?
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > > When I put my
>>> > hand on the
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > dash the air is hot enough but it just
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > > doesn't seem to
>>> > be in a hurry
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > > ya know?
>>> >
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