Well I spent a couple of hours insulating the front of the Bus with the solar bubble wrap, original fiber glass insulation and the foil backed butyl rubber sheets for sound deadening so I didn't get a chance to try the fan installation yet. Lowes also has a small bag of fiber glass insulation pretty cheap for small places like under the dash. I had some serious drafts under there now they are gone I did find that a 12v computer fan is 3.75 inches and is a bit cheaper than the bilge fan. Not sure which one I'm gonna use yet. --- On Sat, 12/12/09, Will <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Will <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay... can it be done? To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 10:49 PM That's because of the bullet holes. -- Sent from my Palm Pre Neil wrote: True! Believe me, mine is too well venilated! --- On Sat, 12/12/09, Edward Maikranz <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: Edward Maikranz <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay... can it be done? > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 1:58 PM > One thing to remember when burning propane > in a vehicle is the amount of water vapor produced. Just > another reason to make sure you are well ventilated when > doing so, or you may find yourself with an indoor rain > forest! > > Ed > > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:48 PM, > Neil <nbmdude@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > Mine is somewhat similar to Mike's...its a ProCat...the > battery powered fan is weak, but it does put out enough heat > to keep ya toasty, drivin' or sleepin'... > > > > --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Mike Hayes <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > > > From: Mike Hayes <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay... can it be > done? > > > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 8:06 PM > > > > > > > > > This is what I use when it gets below freezing. You > > > just have to crack a window. I bungee cord it > > > under the dash so it doesn't fall over. > > > > > > http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200307957_200307957 > > > > > > > > > > > > James Dwan wrote: > > > > I think I'll mount it at the front of the > heater tube. > > > I called West Marine by my house and they have the > 4" for > > > $35. After X-mas decorating tonight I'm gonna > finish > > > wrapping the front tubes, insulate the front skin blow > out > > > the whole thing with compressed air and install it. > > > > > > > > If I don't have too much egg nog... > > > > > > > > --- On *Fri, 12/11/09, Denis Dodson /<coocoo@xxxxxxx>/* > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Denis Dodson <coocoo@xxxxxxx> > > > > Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a > > > late Bay... can it be done? > > > > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Date: Friday, December 11, > > > 2009, 1:07 PM > > > > > > > > James, I have a Fan from some > > > guys that advertise in Hot VW. You > > > > have to cut in to the heating > > > channel and put an in-line fan in > > > > there. West Marine, or any > > > boat supplier has them as bilge fans. > > > > You need to mount it pretty > > > far forward or they will melt. And > > > > yes, they are noisy, but they > > > blow really good strong hot air. I > > > > have a divider behind my seat > > > and it will get too hot in my bus to > > > > run it non stop. I have > > > friends up here who have done it in a Bay > > > > and they were amazed how much > > > heat it gives off. > > > > > > > > > > > > Do it today! > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > > *On Behalf Of *James Dwan > > > > *Sent:* Friday, December 11, > > > 2009 12:16 PM > > > > *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > *Subject:* [tcb] Re: Heat in a > > > late Bay... can it be done? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thats a lot more expensive! > > > > I have read that the plastic > > > tends to melt on those and they are > > > > loud. Someone suggested this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/itemDetailsRender.shtml?ItemId=1611630889 > > > > > > > > > > > > But I have no idea how I would > > > mount it inline. Any ideas? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Fri, 12/11/09, Dan > > > Martin /<danandkatrinamartin@xxxxxxx>/* > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Dan Martin <danandkatrinamartin@xxxxxxx> > > > > Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a > > > late Bay... can it be done? > > > > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Date: Friday, December 11, > > > 2009, 11:15 AM > > > > > > > > http://www.vwheaters.com/ > > > > (bilge blower) > > > > On Dec 11, 2009, at 10:36 AM, > > > James Dwan wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yeah the window felts > > > that are on there allow cold air in and > > > > the jalousies do too. What is > > > the correct way to replace the > > > > felts? Start in the corner or > > > at the vent window? > > > > > > > > > > Would a bilge blower be > > > better? Cheaper? There is a West Marine > > > > closer than a Fry's. > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 12/11/09, > > > Edward Maikranz <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > From: Edward Maikranz > > > <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx> > > > > > Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat > > > in a late Bay... can it be done? > > > > > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Date: Friday, December > > > 11, 2009, 10:22 AM > > > > > > > > > > A bilge blower from a > > > boat mounted in the tube will really make > > > > a difference. > > > > > Also, the best thing to > > > do to a bay to stay warm is to really > > > > work on sealing it up and > > > keeping the cold air out. > > > > > Ed Maikranz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at > > > 10:16 AM, James Dwan > > > > <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx> > > > wrote: > > > > > So I plan on taking the > > > family to the Prairie Lights next > > > > weekend (should be about 3 hrs > > > in the Bus) then up to Grandma's on > > > > OK for X-mas so i need a > > > heating solution. > > > > > > > > > > So far I have wrapped the > > > main tube with solar bubble wrap > > > > twice, tightened the clasps > > > around the heater blower motor where > > > > they attach to the tubes. > > > > > > > > > > I was planning on > > > rebuilding the accordion tubes but that > > > > involves ordering parts and > > > dealing with asbestos rings. Which is > > > > no big deal but I have a > > > another idea. > > > > > > > > > > Why not mount 2 computer > > > fans (12v) to either end of the tunnel > > > > to push more air? > > > > > Has anyone tried this? > > > > > > > > > > When I put my hand on the > > > dash the air is hot enough but it just > > > > doesn't seem to be in a hurry > > > ya know? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > > protection around > > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >