[tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay... can it be done?

  • From: Neil <nbmdude@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:19:14 -0800 (PST)

Thanks for that link!  Soon as I'm able, I'm gonna try that.

--- On Mon, 12/14/09, Edward Maikranz <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Edward Maikranz <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay... can it be done?
> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 5:09 PM
> Arrrrgh!!!!
> Here is a link with photos fer ye land-lubbers!!!
> 
> http://messa.us/VW_Bus/Main_Heater_Tube.html
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 4:59 PM,
> w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> 
> If you put anything with the term
> "bilge" on a bus we'll then start to say
> "where's yer ballast matey! Yer jib isn't cut
> well at all ya landlubber.. Arrrgh"
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Edward Maikranz <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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> 
> Actually its a bilge blower not a pump. they are designed
> to blow fumes out of the bilge area.
> The bilge blower is switched on to ventilate before
> starting the engine.
> Ed
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:52 PM,
> Neil <nbmdude@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I wuz wonderin' about the bilge
> pump...they're designed to pump water not air...would
> there be an overheatin' issue within the pump?
>  I've worked around sump pumps that got pretty warm,
> but the water kept them from gettin' too hot...jus'
> wonderin'...
> 
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> --- On Mon, 12/14/09, James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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> > From: James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay... can it
> be done?
> 
> > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> > Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 8:06 AM
> 
> > Well I
> 
> > spent a couple of hours insulating the front of the
> Bus with
> 
> > the solar bubble wrap, original fiber glass insulation
> and
> 
> > the foil backed butyl rubber sheets for sound
> deadening so I
> 
> > didn't get a chance to try the fan installation
> 
> > yet.
> 
> > Lowes also has a small bag of fiber glass
> 
> > insulation pretty cheap for small places like under
> the
> 
> > dash. I had some serious drafts under there now they
> are
> 
> > gone
> 
> > I did find that a 12v computer fan is 3.75
> 
> > inches and is a bit cheaper than the bilge fan. Not
> sure
> 
> > which one I'm gonna use yet.
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> >
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> > --- On Sat, 12/12/09, Will
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> > <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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> > From: Will <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
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> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay...
> 
> >  can it be done?
> 
> > To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
> 
> > <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> > Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 10:49 PM
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> >
> 
> > That's because of the bullet holes.
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> >
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> >
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> > -- Sent from my
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> > Palm Pre
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> > Neil wrote:
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> >
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> > True!  Believe me, mine is too well venilated!
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> > --- On Sat, 12/12/09, Edward Maikranz
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> > <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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> > > From: Edward Maikranz <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx>
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> >
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> > > Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay... can it
> be
> 
> > done?
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> >
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> > > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> >
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> > > Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 1:58 PM
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> >
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> > > One thing to remember when burning propane
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> >
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> > > in a vehicle is the amount of water vapor
> produced.
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> > Just
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> >
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> > > another reason to make sure you are well
> ventilated
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> > when
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> >
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> > > doing so, or you may find yourself with an indoor
> rain
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> > > forest!
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> > > Ed
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> > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:48 PM,
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> > > Neil <nbmdude@xxxxxxxxx>
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> >
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> > > wrote:
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> > >
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> >
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> > > Mine is somewhat similar to Mike's...its a
> 
> > ProCat...the
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> >
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> > > battery powered fan is weak, but it does put out
> 
> > enough heat
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> >
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> > > to keep ya toasty, drivin' or
> sleepin'...
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> > > --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Mike Hayes
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> > <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> > > wrote:
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> > > > From: Mike Hayes <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay... can
> it
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> > be
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> >
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> > > done?
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> > > > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > > > Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 8:06 PM
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> > > > This is what I use when it gets below
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> > freezing.  You
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> > >
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> > > > just have to crack a window.  I bungee
> cord
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> > it 
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> > >
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> > > > under the dash  so it doesn't fall
> over.
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> > http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200307957_200307957
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> > > > James Dwan wrote:
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> > > > > I think I'll mount it at the front
> of
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> > the
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> >
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> > > heater tube.
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > I called West Marine by my house and they
> have
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> > the
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> > > 4" for
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > $35. After X-mas decorating tonight I'm
> gonna
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> >
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> > > finish
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > wrapping the front tubes, insulate the front
> skin
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> > blow
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> >
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> > > out
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > the whole thing with compressed air and
> install
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> > it.
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> > >
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> > > > >
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> > > > > If I don't have too much egg
> nog...
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> > > > > --- On *Fri, 12/11/09, Denis Dodson
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> > /<coocoo@xxxxxxx>/*
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> > > > wrote:
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> > > > >     From: Denis Dodson
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> > <coocoo@xxxxxxx>
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > >     Subject: [tcb] Re:
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> > Heat in a
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > late Bay... can it be done?
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> > > > >     To:
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> > tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> >
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> >
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> > > > >     Date: Friday,
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> > December 11,
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> > > > 2009, 1:07 PM
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> > > > >     James, I have a Fan
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> > from some
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> > > > guys that advertise in Hot VW. You
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > >     have to cut in to
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> > the heating
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > channel and put an in-line fan in
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> > >
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> > > > >     there. West Marine,
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> > or any
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> > >
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> > > > boat supplier has them as bilge fans.
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> > > > >     You need to mount it
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> > pretty
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> > >
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> > > > far forward or they will melt. And
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> > > > >     yes, they are noisy,
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> > but they
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> > >
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> > > > blow really good strong hot air. I
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> > > > >     have a divider
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> > behind my seat
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > and it will get too hot in my bus to
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > >     run it non stop. I
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> > have
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > friends up here who have done it in a Bay
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > >     and they were amazed
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> > how much
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> > >
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> > > > heat it gives off.
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> > > > >     
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> > > > >     Do it today!
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> > > > >     
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> > > > >     *From:*
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> > tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
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> > > > >     *On Behalf Of *James
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> > Dwan
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> > >
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> > > > >     *Sent:* Friday,
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> > December 11,
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> > > > 2009 12:16 PM
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> > > > >     *To:*
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> > tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > >     *Subject:* [tcb] Re:
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> > Heat in a
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > late Bay... can it be done?
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> > > > >     
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> > > > >     Thats a lot more
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> > expensive!
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> > > > >     I have read that the
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> > plastic
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> > > > tends to melt on those and they are
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> > > > >     loud. Someone
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> > suggested this:
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> >    http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/itemDetailsRender.shtml?ItemId=1611630889
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> > > > >     But I have no idea
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> > how I would
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> > > > mount it inline. Any ideas?
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> > > > >     --- On *Fri,
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> > 12/11/09, Dan
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> > > > Martin /<danandkatrinamartin@xxxxxxx>/*
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> > > > >     From: Dan Martin
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> > <danandkatrinamartin@xxxxxxx>
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > >     Subject: [tcb] Re:
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> > Heat in a
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > late Bay... can it be done?
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> > > > >     To:
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> > tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > > > >     Date: Friday,
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> > December 11,
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> > > > 2009, 11:15 AM
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> > > > > 
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> >    http://www.vwheaters.com/
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> > > > >     (bilge blower)
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> > > > >     On Dec 11, 2009, at
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> > 10:36 AM,
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> > > > James Dwan wrote:
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> > > > >     > Yeah the window
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> > felts
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> > > > that are on there allow cold air in and
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> > > > >     the jalousies do
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> > too. What is
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> > > > the correct way to replace the
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> > > > >     felts? Start in the
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> > corner or
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> > > > at the vent window?
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> > > > >     >
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> > > > >     > Would a bilge
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> > blower be
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> > > > better? Cheaper? There is a West Marine
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> > > > >     closer than a
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> > Fry's.
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> > > > >     > --- On Fri,
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> > 12/11/09,
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> > > > Edward Maikranz <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx>
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> > > > wrote:
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> > > > >     >
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> > > > >     > From: Edward
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> > Maikranz
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> >
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> > >
> 
> >
> 
> > > > <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> >
> 
> > >
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> >
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> > > > >     > Subject: [tcb]
> 
> > Re: Heat
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > in a late Bay... can it be done?
> 
> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > >     > To:
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> > tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > >     > Date: Friday,
> 
> > December
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > 11, 2009, 10:22 AM
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> > > > >     >
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> > > > >     > A bilge blower
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> > from a
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > boat mounted in the tube will really make
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> > > > >     a difference.
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> > > > >     > Also, the best
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> > thing to
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> > >
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> > > > do to a bay to stay warm is to really
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> > > > >     work on sealing it
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> > up and
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> > >
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> > > > keeping the cold air out.
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> > > > >     > Ed Maikranz
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> > > > >     > On Fri, Dec 11,
> 
> > 2009 at
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > 10:16 AM, James Dwan
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> > > > > 
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> >    <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
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> > > > wrote:
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> > > > >     > So I plan on
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> > taking the
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > family to the Prairie Lights next
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > >     weekend (should be
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> > about 3 hrs
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > in the Bus) then up to Grandma's on
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> >
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> > >
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> > > > >     OK for X-mas so i
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> > need a
> 
> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > heating solution.
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> > >
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> > > > >     >
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> >
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> > > > >     > So far I have
> 
> > wrapped the
> 
> >
> 
> > >
> 
> >
> 
> > > > main tube with solar bubble wrap
> 
> >
> 
> > >
> 
> >
> 
> > > > >     twice, tightened the
> 
> > clasps
> 
> >
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> > >
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> > > > >     > I was planning
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> > > > rebuilding the accordion tubes but that
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> > > > >     involves ordering
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> > > > dealing with asbestos rings. Which is
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> > > > >     no big deal but I
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> > > > >     > Why not mount 2
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> > > > fans (12v) to either end of the tunnel
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> > > > >     to push more air?
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> > > > >     > Has anyone
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> > > > >     > When I put my
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> > > > dash the air is hot enough but it just
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> > > > >     doesn't seem to
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