[tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay... can it be done?
- From: "w.wood" <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:20:03 -0500
OMG, where's Tim the toolman when you need him with his Binford 3" sewer
line fittings? That's what I see there PVC and rubber fittings.. Uhm yeah.
Does it come with "Plumber Crack" too?
Okay, here's one for Sammie. Take a 67 bug and hack it up. These guys have
2D machine tools, plasma cutters and they still come up with something that
looks fugly.
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2009/12/wiredcom-diy-ev-gets-motor/
Unfortunately I can't attest to the rear bumper on this thing too nor the
bumper brackets.
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Edward Maikranz <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> Arrrrgh!!!!
> Here is a link with photos fer ye land-lubbers!!!
>
> http://messa.us/VW_Bus/Main_Heater_Tube.html
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 4:59 PM, w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> If you put anything with the term "bilge" on a bus we'll then start to say
>> "where's yer ballast matey! Yer jib isn't cut well at all ya landlubber..
>> Arrrgh"
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Edward Maikranz <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>> Actually its a bilge blower not a pump. they are designed to blow fumes
>>> out of the bilge area.
>>> The bilge blower is switched on to ventilate before starting the engine.
>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Neil <nbmdude@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wuz wonderin' about the bilge pump...they're designed to pump water
>>>> not air...would there be an overheatin' issue within the pump? I've worked
>>>> around sump pumps that got pretty warm, but the water kept them from
>>>> gettin'
>>>> too hot...jus' wonderin'...
>>>>
>>>> --- On Mon, 12/14/09, James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > From: James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay... can it be done?
>>>> > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> > Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 8:06 AM
>>>> > Well I
>>>> > spent a couple of hours insulating the front of the Bus with
>>>> > the solar bubble wrap, original fiber glass insulation and
>>>> > the foil backed butyl rubber sheets for sound deadening so I
>>>> > didn't get a chance to try the fan installation
>>>> > yet.
>>>> > Lowes also has a small bag of fiber glass
>>>> > insulation pretty cheap for small places like under the
>>>> > dash. I had some serious drafts under there now they are
>>>> > gone
>>>> > I did find that a 12v computer fan is 3.75
>>>> > inches and is a bit cheaper than the bilge fan. Not sure
>>>> > which one I'm gonna use yet.
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > --- On Sat, 12/12/09, Will
>>>> > <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > From: Will <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay...
>>>> > can it be done?
>>>>
>>>> > To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
>>>> > <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 10:49 PM
>>>> >
>>>> > That's because of the bullet holes.
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > -- Sent from my
>>>> > Palm Pre
>>>> > Neil wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > True! Believe me, mine is too well venilated!
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --- On Sat, 12/12/09, Edward Maikranz
>>>> > <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > > From: Edward Maikranz <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >
>>>> > > Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay... can it be
>>>> > done?
>>>> >
>>>> > > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >
>>>> > > Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 1:58 PM
>>>> >
>>>> > > One thing to remember when burning propane
>>>> >
>>>> > > in a vehicle is the amount of water vapor produced.
>>>> > Just
>>>> >
>>>> > > another reason to make sure you are well ventilated
>>>> > when
>>>> >
>>>> > > doing so, or you may find yourself with an indoor rain
>>>> >
>>>> > > forest!
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > Ed
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:48 PM,
>>>> >
>>>> > > Neil <nbmdude@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >
>>>> > > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > Mine is somewhat similar to Mike's...its a
>>>> > ProCat...the
>>>> >
>>>> > > battery powered fan is weak, but it does put out
>>>> > enough heat
>>>> >
>>>> > > to keep ya toasty, drivin' or sleepin'...
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Mike Hayes
>>>> > <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >
>>>> > > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > From: Mike Hayes <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay... can it
>>>> > be
>>>> >
>>>> > > done?
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 8:06 PM
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > This is what I use when it gets below
>>>> > freezing. You
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > just have to crack a window. I bungee cord
>>>> > it
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > under the dash so it doesn't fall over.
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > >
>>>> >
>>>> http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200307957_200307957
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > James Dwan wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > I think I'll mount it at the front of
>>>> > the
>>>> >
>>>> > > heater tube.
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > I called West Marine by my house and they have
>>>> > the
>>>> >
>>>> > > 4" for
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > $35. After X-mas decorating tonight I'm gonna
>>>> >
>>>> > > finish
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > wrapping the front tubes, insulate the front skin
>>>> > blow
>>>> >
>>>> > > out
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > the whole thing with compressed air and install
>>>> > it.
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > If I don't have too much egg nog...
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > --- On *Fri, 12/11/09, Denis Dodson
>>>> > /<coocoo@xxxxxxx>/*
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > From: Denis Dodson
>>>> > <coocoo@xxxxxxx>
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > Subject: [tcb] Re:
>>>> > Heat in a
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > late Bay... can it be done?
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > To:
>>>> > tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > Date: Friday,
>>>> > December 11,
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > 2009, 1:07 PM
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > James, I have a Fan
>>>> > from some
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > guys that advertise in Hot VW. You
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > have to cut in to
>>>> > the heating
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > channel and put an in-line fan in
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > there. West Marine,
>>>> > or any
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > boat supplier has them as bilge fans.
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > You need to mount it
>>>> > pretty
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > far forward or they will melt. And
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > yes, they are noisy,
>>>> > but they
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > blow really good strong hot air. I
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > have a divider
>>>> > behind my seat
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > and it will get too hot in my bus to
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > run it non stop. I
>>>> > have
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > friends up here who have done it in a Bay
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > and they were amazed
>>>> > how much
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > heat it gives off.
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > Do it today!
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > *From:*
>>>> > tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > *On Behalf Of *James
>>>> > Dwan
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > *Sent:* Friday,
>>>> > December 11,
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > 2009 12:16 PM
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > *To:*
>>>> > tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > *Subject:* [tcb] Re:
>>>> > Heat in a
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > late Bay... can it be done?
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > Thats a lot more
>>>> > expensive!
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > I have read that the
>>>> > plastic
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > tends to melt on those and they are
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > loud. Someone
>>>> > suggested this:
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/itemDetailsRender.shtml?ItemId=1611630889
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > But I have no idea
>>>> > how I would
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > mount it inline. Any ideas?
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > --- On *Fri,
>>>> > 12/11/09, Dan
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > Martin /<danandkatrinamartin@xxxxxxx>/*
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > From: Dan Martin
>>>> > <danandkatrinamartin@xxxxxxx>
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > Subject: [tcb] Re:
>>>> > Heat in a
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > late Bay... can it be done?
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > To:
>>>> > tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > Date: Friday,
>>>> > December 11,
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > 2009, 11:15 AM
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > http://www.vwheaters.com/
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > (bilge blower)
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > On Dec 11, 2009, at
>>>> > 10:36 AM,
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > James Dwan wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > Yeah the window
>>>> > felts
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > that are on there allow cold air in and
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > the jalousies do
>>>> > too. What is
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > the correct way to replace the
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > felts? Start in the
>>>> > corner or
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > at the vent window?
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > Would a bilge
>>>> > blower be
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > better? Cheaper? There is a West Marine
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > closer than a
>>>> > Fry's.
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > --- On Fri,
>>>> > 12/11/09,
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > Edward Maikranz <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > From: Edward
>>>> > Maikranz
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > Subject: [tcb]
>>>> > Re: Heat
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > in a late Bay... can it be done?
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > To:
>>>> > tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > Date: Friday,
>>>> > December
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > 11, 2009, 10:22 AM
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > A bilge blower
>>>> > from a
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > boat mounted in the tube will really make
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > a difference.
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > Also, the best
>>>> > thing to
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > do to a bay to stay warm is to really
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > work on sealing it
>>>> > up and
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > keeping the cold air out.
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > Ed Maikranz
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > On Fri, Dec 11,
>>>> > 2009 at
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > 10:16 AM, James Dwan
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > So I plan on
>>>> > taking the
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > family to the Prairie Lights next
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > weekend (should be
>>>> > about 3 hrs
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > in the Bus) then up to Grandma's on
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > OK for X-mas so i
>>>> > need a
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > heating solution.
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > So far I have
>>>> > wrapped the
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > main tube with solar bubble wrap
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > twice, tightened the
>>>> > clasps
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > around the heater blower motor where
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > they attach to the
>>>> > tubes.
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > I was planning
>>>> > on
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > rebuilding the accordion tubes but that
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > involves ordering
>>>> > parts and
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > dealing with asbestos rings. Which is
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > no big deal but I
>>>> > have a
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > another idea.
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > Why not mount 2
>>>> > computer
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > fans (12v) to either end of the tunnel
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > to push more air?
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > Has anyone
>>>> > tried this?
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > When I put my
>>>> > hand on the
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > dash the air is hot enough but it just
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > doesn't seem to
>>>> > be in a hurry
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > > ya know?
>>>> >
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>>>> >
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