[talks-uk] Re: Firmware Update

  • From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:19:45 -0000

Ibrahim,

I'm first going to try to update firmware by checking what's on offer for me 
...  I am not thinking of unbranding at this stage, or perhaps not at all.  I 
think it can be risky and, as my phone is already faster with this version of 
Talks, it's no real big deal if I have to stay where I am, though I'd like to 
improve things if possible.

Thanks though for your additional info.  I'll keep it just in case I change my 
mind.  Who knows, if something doesn't work OK I might just do that.

--
Carol
carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

---- Original Message ----
From: Ibrahim Gucukoglu
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 5:06 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Firmware Update

> Hi Carol.
> 
> If you want to go down the unbranding route, I suggest you ask around
> in your local town centre or high street, there may be a mobile
> dealer who can do this service for you, though expect to pay around
> 20 to 35 pounds for this to be done.  If you haven't a problem with
> sending the phone off, www.fonefunshop.co.uk offer a service where
> for £20 including return post, they'll unbrand and apply the latest
> firmware for you.      
> 
> As for backing up your phone, I don't know whether after having
> changed the firmware version and branding whether you will be able to
> restore your backup to phone memory.  My personal advice to you would
> be to back up your contacts, calendar entries etc as at least these
> can be restored irrespective of the firmware version.  All you will
> then need to do is install talks but as I said, I don't know and I am
> erring on the side of caution.      
> 
> All the best, Ibrahim.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Carol Pearson
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:59 PM
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Firmware Update
> 
> 
> Hi Ibrahim,
> 
> Thanks, at last, for that understandable explanation ... phew!
> 
> OK, so I really want to check if an update is available that I can
> have so, having backed up my phone to my card, where do I go next? 
> 
> 
>> Hi Carol.
>> 
>> OK, lets clarify this for you *grin*.  When you buy a branded phone,
>> the phone network puts their own version of the symbian operating
>> system on it, customised with their specific feature set.  When you
>> go to upgrade the phone using the nokia software updater, the service
>> code which is the unique code of the service provider and which
>> determines amongst other things country, model and colour is sent
>> along with the IMEI number to the Nokia server when the update check
>> is performed.  Nokia will then check to see whether an update for
>> that specific service code can be found, if it can, you'll be offered
>> the option of installing it.  Because of the partnership with network
>> operators, they will get to decide whether you can apply the latest
>> version of the firmware.  Just because Nokia have released an update,
>> if the network haven't endorsed it or had their own custom version
>> made, they won't make it available to their branded phones for
>> obvious reasons.  If you want the very latest firmware and this
>> direct from Nokia, you'll have to have the phone unbranded which
>> effectively is changing the service code to a Nokia unbranded one.
>> This can be done by a local phone dealer who may offer this service,
>> there are also a number of internet specialists to whom you can send
>> the phone also.  You can't do this yourself at home, the process is
>> very difficult for a blind person to do as the use of specialist
>> software is required.
>> 
>> I hope this helps and if you need advice on how to go about having
>> your phone serviced, please let me know and I can provide you with
>> some personal recommendations.
>> 
>> All the best, Ibrahim.
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Carol Pearson
>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:41 PM
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Firmware Update
>> 
>> 
>> Well, let me just clarify.  This phone was purchased at a Voda shop
>> and I use O2.  You still reckon I should give an upgrade a go!
>> 
>> Where do I go to find one then?
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi Carol,
>>> 
>>> Nothing of the sort.  You can upgrade any phone you like.  Remember
>>> to back up the contents though.  If Voda haven't released the
>>> firmware, you won't be able to update it anyway.
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> 
>>> Steve
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carol Pearson
>>> Sent: Wednesday 18 March 2009 11:32
>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Firmware Update
>>> 
>>> That's fabulous, Barbara!  I would hesitate to do it on my older N95
>>> though.
>>> 
>>> Steve, what was it you once said about upgrading firmware on the N95
>>> in connection with those who can't!  I don't really want you to
>>> confirm what I think you said, but I thought I'd best get it right.
>>> My understanding was that I couldn't upgrade because my phone has
>>> Vodaphone all over, even if it is unlocked for all networks.  (I
>>> guess it didn't start out that way, but I don't know!)
>>> 
>>> Hope you can clarify that for me as I really would like to have
>>> upgraded.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Not sure how many newer phones this is a feature on, but I am using
>>>> the N79. I went to menu/tools/utilities/device manager and was able
>>>> to go online and update my firmware. Unless I have done something
>>>> wrong it was as easy as that. No need for a PC or PC Suite and I
>>>> didn't lose anything, not even TALKS.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Barbara Wilson
>>>> M: 07917710779
>>>> T: 02887784046
>>>> E: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> IM: creativeeyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Skype: creativeeyes

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