Interesting now Ibrahim. When I got my Vodafone N95 I asked the chap how long I would have to wait until I could unlock it and he said one year and then he said it will cost you £20.00. All that said he then said he would do it for me immediately and he did!!! No it is not a trick or joke, I have used other SIMs in it, even 02 in Ireland! Now is my phone still Branded with Vodafone? Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: Ibrahim Gucukoglu To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:59 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Firmware Update Hi Carol. OK, lets clarify this for you *grin*. When you buy a branded phone, the phone network puts their own version of the symbian operating system on it, customised with their specific feature set. When you go to upgrade the phone using the nokia software updater, the service code which is the unique code of the service provider and which determines amongst other things country, model and colour is sent along with the IMEI number to the Nokia server when the update check is performed. Nokia will then check to see whether an update for that specific service code can be found, if it can, you'll be offered the option of installing it. Because of the partnership with network operators, they will get to decide whether you can apply the latest version of the firmware. Just because Nokia have released an update, if the network haven't endorsed it or had their own custom version made, they won't make it available to their branded phones for obvious reasons. If you want the very latest firmware and this direct from Nokia, you'll have to have the phone unbranded which effectively is changing the service code to a Nokia unbranded one. This can be done by a local phone dealer who may offer this service, there are also a number of internet specialists to whom you can send the phone also. You can't do this yourself at home, the process is very difficult for a blind person to do as the use of specialist software is required. I hope this helps and if you need advice on how to go about having your phone serviced, please let me know and I can provide you with some personal recommendations. All the best, Ibrahim. ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Pearson To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:41 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Firmware Update Well, let me just clarify. This phone was purchased at a Voda shop and I use O2. You still reckon I should give an upgrade a go! Where do I go to find one then? -- Carol carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ---- Original Message ---- From: Steve Nutt To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:41 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Firmware Update > Hi Carol, > > Nothing of the sort. You can upgrade any phone you like. Remember > to back up the contents though. If Voda haven't released the > firmware, you won't be able to update it anyway. > > All the best > > Steve > > > > > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carol Pearson > Sent: Wednesday 18 March 2009 11:32 > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Firmware Update > > That's fabulous, Barbara! I would hesitate to do it on my older N95 > though. > > Steve, what was it you once said about upgrading firmware on the N95 > in connection with those who can't! I don't really want you to > confirm what I think you said, but I thought I'd best get it right. > My understanding was that I couldn't upgrade because my phone has > Vodaphone all over, even if it is unlocked for all networks. (I > guess it didn't start out that way, but I don't know!) > > Hope you can clarify that for me as I really would like to have > upgraded. > > >> Not sure how many newer phones this is a feature on, but I am using >> the N79. I went to menu/tools/utilities/device manager and was able >> to go online and update my firmware. Unless I have done something >> wrong it was as easy as that. No need for a PC or PC Suite and I >> didn't lose anything, not even TALKS. >> >> >> Barbara Wilson >> M: 07917710779 >> T: 02887784046 >> E: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> IM: creativeeyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Skype: creativeeyes -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1364 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message